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Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:29 am to smuphy72
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Raven Grey and Greg Smith were both such huge letdowns.
That list is long
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:29 am to LanierSpots
That list is long for most schools. It’s rarer than not that a JUCO kid works out to be a star
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:59 am to TailbackU
Clemente says transfer WR Shane Hooks from JSU visited yesterday and met with the staff
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:01 am to TailbackU
Yep. Fortunately we got lucky twice. Big time.
I will not shite on the old juco system we used. It worked for us.
If the new found “transfer” works as well, we will all profit.
I will not shite on the old juco system we used. It worked for us.
If the new found “transfer” works as well, we will all profit.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:18 am to LanierSpots
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:52 am to LanierSpots
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If the new found “transfer” works as well,
Heard on Sirius show this morning that the NIL market is already making a shift in how the money is being spent. A correction in what is being spent on HS kids and Portal recruits.
They said obviously the top HS players will still get paid, but the amounts are retracting after seeing that the HS kids could get paid, but can leave the next year or two, and get no return on their money. Some have been burned already and pivoting quickly because of it.
They said big donors are always looking for something in return like their name on a building and in the case of buying recruits, they will want championships. They claim donors will eventually withhold funds or limit them should their school see no banners hung for the effort and treasure spent.
They said you will see the bulk of NIL dollars going to transfer portal players because they mostly can't leave again, most have experience and schools will have an idea what they can do. Free Agent market
They said a lot of the figures being thrown around are not accurate in most cases, but some are in fact getting 7 figure deals for the elite recruits.
It was interesting and I am still not a fan of it all, but it's not being reversed. I'm just hopeful it can have some regulation of some sort.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:42 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:This absolutely makes sense.
They said you will see the bulk of NIL dollars going to transfer portal players because they mostly can't leave again, most have experience and schools will have an idea what they can do. Free Agent market
quote:What I don't understand with this is why it isn't structured as an multi-year contract.
They said obviously the top HS players will still get paid, but the amounts are retracting after seeing that the HS kids could get paid, but can leave the next year or two, and get no return on their money. Some have been burned already and pivoting quickly because of it.
quote:Yep a guy buying great players for the school should get access... doesn't seem controversial to me. Not sure about a name on a building, as that's usually for 8 figures, but this doesn't seem odd to me.
They said big donors are always looking for something in return like their name on a building and in the case of buying recruits, they will want championships. They claim donors will eventually withhold funds or limit them should their school see no banners hung for the effort and treasure spent.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:16 am to ALhunter
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Not sure about a name on a building
That was just the example of a donor making a large contribution to the school usually translates to their name being attached to a building or something so that they are recognized.
However, in the case of providing contributions for recruits that will translate into the donors wanting results, "championships".
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What I don't understand with this is why it isn't structured as an multi-year contract.
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Not every big time recruit is ready to contribute year one. You pay a big name 500,000-2M for one year and then they transfer, that is a huge loss. They are recognizing it and starting to pull back the higher amounts, and instead redistributing to more proven transfer players.
That doesn't mean elite recruits won't get paid and some donors at some schools will pour money in no matter what because it gives them influence, which is a powerful drug of course.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:54 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
The money people and OTV donors are going to need to see NIL as a cost of being relevant/good, and translate that into a yearly budget rather than money for a specific player. If we tie our dollars to a specific player, then there is going to be a lot of disappointment. I'm sure Georgia has a considerable sum of money tied up in guys who don't play much, and the boosters can't focus on that. They need to just focus on the national titles and know that they had to spend significant money on busts and backups in order to be a championship team.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:06 am to ALhunter
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What I don't understand with this is why it isn't structured as an multi-year contract.
At some point it will have to be. Donors and schools aren't going to pay big money for recruits and then have them just bounce for a bigger offer for very long. If athletes want to be treated like employees in terms of being paid, they will have to accept the negative aspects of that (being under contract) eventually.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:08 am to AUgryphon
I'm all for telling big donors how they should feel towards the money they put in, but I am betting they don't give a damn what we have to say.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:09 am to AUgryphon
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The money people and OTV donors are going to need to see NIL as a cost of being relevant/good, and translate that into a yearly budget rather than money for a specific player.
That's already how it works. Our donor commitments are over ~3 years which means that there is a defacto yearly budget. So the whole "we have the money, just spend whatever it takes" stuff that people throw around every time a player enters the portal is highly mistaken and not at all real.
The whole NIL Collective model will be dead within a few years anyway. My guess is that players will eventually receive a share the athletics takeaway from TV deals etc. The current model can't last, and most people don't grasp that there are like 3-4 different entities at Auburn hitting up the same guys every year for money. Donor fatigue is a real thing.
Oh yeah, and then when it's time to fire the coach that some dipshit AD hired it's time to pitch in as well for the buyout. All the while some tards on the internet will jump in to present Jimmy Rane as the problem with AU athletics
.This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:21 am to metafour
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All the while some tards on the internet will jump in to present Jimmy Rane as the problem with AU athletics
This stuff is always so tiresome and ignorant.
I have a hard time believing any athlete is getting paid more than on an annual basis. I guess there could theoretically be a signing bonus of some sort, too?
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:41 am to PubeCrab
Give the big boosters rings when we win anything. If they didn't get any rings that fiscal year, up the budget. If one stops donating put their name in the stadium, in the urinals to be more precise
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:41 am to auyushu
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At some point it will have to be.
Yep. Right now it isn't competitive to offer multi-year, but as we progress more down this road, it will gravitate towards that as more and more get burned by kids that transfer after 1 year.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:42 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
A few years ago, everybody wanted these people out of the athletic department. Now they want him back in. Full circle baby.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:44 am to LanierSpots
We want him helping and being a part of everything but learn to get the frick out of the way when appropriate.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 11:46 am
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:48 am to LanierSpots
Don't ever be mistaken that everyone has always wanted their money without their meddling. Never will happen.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:52 am to LanierSpots
There is a part of me that wants the whole thing to implode and come crashing down around us. There is no way this thing keeps going the way it’s going without some significant changes.
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