re: Numba 1 AU vs Unranked LSU game thread

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would Barkley be drafted in today’s nba? Rodman? Robert Parrish? Ewing? Many other greats…

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Did Walker Kessler gets drafted? Did Zach Edey get drafted? If they were still dominating like they did back then Parish and Ewing would easily get drafted, just not as high.

Barkley wouldn't go top five most likely, but he would easily get drafted given how athletic he was.

Rodman may not get drafted now, but he wasn't a first round pick in the 80s either.

Your claims aren't backed up by actual draft results in the slightest. Trying to claim top 50 all time NBA players wouldn't be drafted is simply nonsensical.

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Yall are missing what I am saying.

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No one missed it. You said Larry Bird wouldn’t be drafted today. That is retarded.

This is a good discussion/debate

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They weren’t Top 50 players in NBA history coming out of college.

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What does that have to do with anything? They were drafted in the top ten based on their talent and obviously lived up to it.

The thing you don't seem to be getting with your comparison is that Timme, Oscar, and Broome all had/have trouble getting drafted because they are tweeners, not because centers no longer get drafted. None of them have the quickness or 3pt shot to stick at PF in the NBA at a decent level, nor the size to really stick at center (Broome could possibly prove me wrong here).

Parish and Ewing both had legit NBA center size and could easily get drafted. Kessler wishes he had the offensive skills either of them had, and he just got drafted in the first round.

Broome is a fantastic college player, but even now he tends to struggle at times with big, physical centers here and there. He still has a decent chance to get drafted late first/early second, but I could see him struggling due to that, and probably why the scouts were leery.

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This is a good discussion/debate

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You quipped yourself in to a bad take here, Corch lol.

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Still stand by my take. Everyone does remember Oscar just won the Naismith award, correct? Like 3 years ago

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“Tweeners” have been a thing as long as different levels of ball have.

Larry Bird was never a tweener. He was considered elite for his day and age even coming out of college.

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Larry Bird was never a tweener. He was considered elite for his day and age even coming out of college.

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"And I'll be darned, I put him in a game, and he helped us win," said Jim Jones, who coached Bird in high school. "Then our second game, I didn't put him in, we got beat and he told me that was a reason why. That was his competitiveness. His will to win was ungodly." link


worth the banter: isiah-thomas-talks-about-a-wild-larry-bird-moment

. . . .It's on disrespect and if corch was guarding him

I actually think if given the chance Bird would be more dominant today with the open spacing. Problem is he may not have been given the chance because he didn’t have a 36” vertical.

Everyone remembers Bird a Larry Legend. Mr Boston Celtic. That wasn’t always the case. He like everyone that has played had a learning curve in both college and nba. Looked many times in college like a newly born deer. He was on the ground more than on his feet.

Johni and Bird both great passers
Johni great rebounder Bird above average rebounder
Johni and Bird could score when their teams need them to. Broome shoots a higher percentage. Bird is a better FT shooter.
Handles Bird in college might have slightly better handles but not by much.
Shot blocker Broome is elite. Bird below average for a PF.

I’m not talking Bird after 20 years in the nba I’m talking Bird coming out of college. Different time period so the game has evolved. I think the evolution is a crap product. Measurables and athleticism have taken over being able to play the game. That’s why a guy like Tim Duncan never won scoring titles but won championships.