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Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:23 am to AuburnTigers
You’re trying way to hard.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:27 am to jangalang
That tweet asks a good question.
In my lifetime as a fan which didn’t go back to Mengelt. He has to be 1 or 2 of all time. As far as success with stats has to be number 1.
I’d still rank them currently with a chance for Broome to move to number 1…
Chuck Person
Johni Broome
Charles Barkley
Prior to the 80s I have no idea about players so that’s would have to be studied
In my lifetime as a fan which didn’t go back to Mengelt. He has to be 1 or 2 of all time. As far as success with stats has to be number 1.
I’d still rank them currently with a chance for Broome to move to number 1…
Chuck Person
Johni Broome
Charles Barkley
Prior to the 80s I have no idea about players so that’s would have to be studied
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:05 pm to CorchJay
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Put it this way Larry Bird in today’s game would have gone undrafted.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:10 pm to Warrior Court
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:11 pm to CorchJay
quote:His NIL would make rookie dollars irrelevant.
Bird in today’s game would have gone undrafted
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:12 pm to 88TIger
One name Drew Timme
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:26 pm to CorchJay
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Put it this way Larry Bird in today’s game would have gone undrafted.
Yeah that’s a pretty silly take here, Corch.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:32 pm to Bigbens42
Fair enough I have a different opinion. Recently college results have proven me correct.
Drew Timme
Oscar Tshiebwe
And Johni Broome this year. However I think Johni goes late in the 2nd round.
Drew Timme
Oscar Tshiebwe
And Johni Broome this year. However I think Johni goes late in the 2nd round.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:30 pm to CorchJay
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Drew Timme
A talented throwback center archetype who didn't develop range outside of the paint. Not valued in TODAYs NBA.
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Oscar Tshiebwe
A rebounding specialist who also didn't develop range outside of the paint. Not valued in TODAYs NBA.
Some of it is guys don't have the talent to stretch the defense, some of it is the teams they played for never asked them to do it - but the end result is the same.
I think Broome will get drafted where you suggested, I hope he gets time in the NBA but he'll always be an Auburn guy for his time here.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:43 pm to CorchJay
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Fair enough I have a different opinion.
You just said a top ten NBA player of all time wouldn't be drafted now, and compared him to Drew Timme. Timme's stats weren't even in the same universe as Bird's in college, and that's not even going into his skillset. The comparison to Oscar is even more laughable, as he barely had a jump shot outside of the close paint.
That's not an oh I have a different opinion take, that's an insane take that everyone is going to call you out for.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:48 pm to CorchJay
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Drew Timme
Oscar Tshiebwe
Which of these two threw their team on his back and took them all the way to the championship game in college?
Which of these cats signed the largest rookie deal of their time?
Have you ever listened to what legends say about Bird? Had his back injury & ankle not given out it would have been interesting to see how far he would have gone.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 3:59 pm to 88TIger
Yall are missing what I am saying. Everyone tried to get their gotcha moment without listening to what people say.
I said Johni Broome is a great example of what is wrong with the NBA. That is all about potential. Therefore hurts the end product. Timme and Oscar were used as examples of great college players that weren’t drafted even though they had proven time and time again they could play at elite levels.
I’ll make it more personal… would Barkley be drafted in today’s nba? Rodman? Robert Parrish? Ewing? Many other greats…
I said Johni Broome is a great example of what is wrong with the NBA. That is all about potential. Therefore hurts the end product. Timme and Oscar were used as examples of great college players that weren’t drafted even though they had proven time and time again they could play at elite levels.
I’ll make it more personal… would Barkley be drafted in today’s nba? Rodman? Robert Parrish? Ewing? Many other greats…
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:40 pm to CorchJay
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Timme and Oscar were used as examples of great college players that weren’t drafted even though they had proven time and time again they could play at elite levels.
I get the point you're trying to make but these guys obviously can't play at elite levels. They aren't even on NBA rosters. Some guys games don't translate to higher levels. Larry Bird obviously was never seen as one of those guys given his draft position.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:08 pm to CorchJay
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I said Johni Broome is a great example of what is wrong with the NBA.
While true, trying to compare that to Bird not getting drafted in todays game is ludicrous. What will keep Johnni from going high is his three point shooting ability. Bird did not have that issue in college. Bird was an assassin from all over the court. Hell, Bird took Indiana State to the National Championship game.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:12 pm to MrAUTigers
There was no 3 point line when Bird was in college.
I stand by what I said. Same with Barkley and others.
I stand by what I said. Same with Barkley and others.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:17 pm to CorchJay
Yes, but he was still hitting shots from 25'. I am probably older than you and we both saw him play. I remember vividly watching that NC game. Saying Bird wouldn't get drafted in todays game is like saying Wilt wouldn't get drafted in todays game. There was no better player on the floor than either one of them. College, Pro, or at the playground.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:19 pm to CorchJay
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I said Johni Broome is a great example of what is wrong with the NBA. That is all about potential. Therefore hurts the end product. Timme and Oscar were used as examples of great college players that weren’t drafted even though they had proven time and time again they could play at elite levels.
They proved they could play at elite level in college. Big difference between that and playing at an elite level in the NBA.
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would Barkley be drafted in today’s nba? Rodman? Robert Parrish? Ewing?
Drafted? Probably. Don't know how much run they would get if they never learned to stretch a defense.
You're approaching this issue in the wrong manner imo. Can't effectively compare a college player today and say "well he should succeed in the NBA because of similar players 30 years ago". The league has changed to focus almost exclusively on 3 pt shots (arguably for the worse) but it is the metric just about every draftable player is measured against.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:21 pm to MrAUTigers
Same as Broome. Best player on the court each night.
I’m not comparing careers I’m comparing their college games. Look at what all Broome does. He stuff the stat sheet full. I’m not saying Bird didn’t because he was incredible same as Barkley however Barkley wasn’t a good shooter when he left college he became a good shooter in the league.
I’m not comparing careers I’m comparing their college games. Look at what all Broome does. He stuff the stat sheet full. I’m not saying Bird didn’t because he was incredible same as Barkley however Barkley wasn’t a good shooter when he left college he became a good shooter in the league.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:23 pm to CorchJay
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. Everyone tried to get their gotcha moment without listening to what people say.
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Larry Bird in today’s game would have gone undrafted.
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