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re: Not to Bitch About Officiating, but...
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:19 am to Awesome Dave
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:19 am to Awesome Dave
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Half the length of my penis
Damn, 8-12 inches that's pretty impressive dude. Congrats.
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:33 am to AA7
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Thank you for this. I became temporarily dyslexic half way through the drinks and article but will try again later today. Fewer drinks and more article.
I always appreciate everyone who brings anything educational (and OT, butt humorous too - I need to laugh more, no joke) to the board. Even at my expense.
War Eagle.
ETA - Every post I ever make will be edited because... my posts can and should always be better.
Thank you for this. I became temporarily dyslexic half way through the drinks and article but will try again later today. Fewer drinks and more article.
I always appreciate everyone who brings anything educational (and OT, butt humorous too - I need to laugh more, no joke) to the board. Even at my expense.
War Eagle.
ETA - Every post I ever make will be edited because... my posts can and should always be better.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:44 pm to freemanjiro
That was not a safety. Look at the replay, his last effort put the ball fully beyond the stripe. HIs body behind the goal line is meaningless.
The third down miscue is a reason to sit those guys home for a week or two.
Every official wears a down indicator on their wrist. That comes from the year Colorado got five downs and eventually won a National Championship.
The fault lies with Line Judge. He has the best view of the down marker and can tell where the loop is on one of his fingers telling him what down it is. His signal is palm up and pump the hell out of the sky to get that down marker flipped when that box is wrong. If it's about to be snapped, blow the whistle and stop it. Head Linesman has his back to the chains and box the entire game. I always told my box man ..."You are going to get real tired of me asking what down you have on the box."
I hated Head Linesman because I always felt that chain was wrapped around my legs.......especially when you have a half drunk line crew that anticipates every play and moves the sticks constantly.
I fired a chain crew halfway into a first quarter one night and hired the 4 people immediately closest to me. Four Junior Varsity Cheer Leaders. In five minutes had them coached up and operating ..... Best chain crew I ever had. They asked multiple questions and got out of the way when I told them to drop everything and run.
The third down miscue is a reason to sit those guys home for a week or two.
Every official wears a down indicator on their wrist. That comes from the year Colorado got five downs and eventually won a National Championship.
The fault lies with Line Judge. He has the best view of the down marker and can tell where the loop is on one of his fingers telling him what down it is. His signal is palm up and pump the hell out of the sky to get that down marker flipped when that box is wrong. If it's about to be snapped, blow the whistle and stop it. Head Linesman has his back to the chains and box the entire game. I always told my box man ..."You are going to get real tired of me asking what down you have on the box."
I hated Head Linesman because I always felt that chain was wrapped around my legs.......especially when you have a half drunk line crew that anticipates every play and moves the sticks constantly.
I fired a chain crew halfway into a first quarter one night and hired the 4 people immediately closest to me. Four Junior Varsity Cheer Leaders. In five minutes had them coached up and operating ..... Best chain crew I ever had. They asked multiple questions and got out of the way when I told them to drop everything and run.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:24 pm to bluedragon
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there is a pic floating around that shows the penn state guys knee down and the ball well away from the goal line.
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His initial progress the ball was well past the goal line.
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That was not a safety.
Wrong
Clip below includes initial progress. Knee down...Ball half-way across line.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:35 pm to slacker130
"Hoping for an injury free game with no referee bias or horse shite calls". - ChexMix pregame
The level of anger i felt during this game was worse than when i saw Gus rotate 5 players at the QB position against Clemson to start the season.
On the Zakoby call. I lost it. I can still feel the rage inside me two days later
The level of anger i felt during this game was worse than when i saw Gus rotate 5 players at the QB position against Clemson to start the season.
On the Zakoby call. I lost it. I can still feel the rage inside me two days later
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:37 pm to Niner
OMG
I told my friend that if we get a safety we were going to win that game. Such a sinking feeling knowing we got stabbed in the back
I told my friend that if we get a safety we were going to win that game. Such a sinking feeling knowing we got stabbed in the back
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:01 pm to bluedragon
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Look at the replay
Well the gif below your "look at the replay" response clearly shows a safety. So I guess you didn't look at the replay yourself unless you're an ex official that always thinks refs always get the call correct.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:13 pm to Niner
Definitely a safety
The more I watch though his initial progress could be across the line. Just remember the call was he was across, and with that angle and not being able to see the ball, it may have stood and not overturned. If it had been ruled a safety they couldn't have overturned that either.
But from my vantage point as an Auburn fan I stand by my initial call of it being a safety.
The more I watch though his initial progress could be across the line. Just remember the call was he was across, and with that angle and not being able to see the ball, it may have stood and not overturned. If it had been ruled a safety they couldn't have overturned that either.
But from my vantage point as an Auburn fan I stand by my initial call of it being a safety.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:19 pm to bluedragon
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his last effort put the ball fully beyond the stripe
This is not accurate. I would argue his initial surge may have crossed, but his knee was down before he got the ball across on the second attempt.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:24 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I think however it was called on the field would have stood as well.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:24 pm to Tigerman97
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break the plane of the goal line
Only if you're looking at a TD. Now reverse that and if that ball is not completely across the line when your knee goes down it is still in the end zone.
The only argument Penn St would have is on the initial surge. I can't see the ball and so can't tell if it is across. The second surge he definitely did not make it out.
However, since they called no safety they could argue the initial surge is where he crossed, and no clear evidence to overturn.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:25 pm to higgs_boson
Agreed
Posted on 9/20/21 at 4:17 pm to Niner
This GIF starts after his initial progress had begun to be pushed back. Find one that starts from the snap of the ball.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:17 am to MTurbo
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This GIF starts after his initial progress had begun to be pushed back. Find one that starts from the snap of the ball.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:54 am to Niner
I don't know how anyone can look at the initial forward progress and say his forearm, where the ball is cradled, somehow got across the goal line behind Smoke's body.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:07 am to Niner
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I don't know how anyone can look at the initial forward progress and say his forearm, where the ball is cradled, somehow got across the goal line behind Smoke's body.
THat's true, but if this part of the surge is part of the replay review, and the ref has already called that the runner got out from the goal...then they don't have conclusive evidence to overturn it.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:29 am to Niner
In the GIF what is the blocking technique being used by PSU on Auburn #92?
Is that legal?
So proper technique includes wrapping arms around a player from behind?
#86 uses similar technique as well.
Guess they teach blocking consistently there.
Is there a rule against that?
What if it happens while runner is in end zone?
Is that legal?
So proper technique includes wrapping arms around a player from behind?
#86 uses similar technique as well.
Guess they teach blocking consistently there.
Is there a rule against that?
What if it happens while runner is in end zone?
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:27 pm to AuSteeler
quote:except ya know, the video is conclusive.
they don't have conclusive evidence to overturn it.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:59 pm to ChexMix
I was wrong because my first view had none of the last video that showed the foreleg on the ground before the ball was fully out. Either the replay booth screwed this up ...or, since we never hear from the booth.....The official could have guessed that the original surge, before the pushback, could have made it fully out. He's not supposed to guess, he can only decide based on what he can see.
It would nice if the replay official had to present his case for not overturning a call, while on the air. There was a spring Pro league where the replay official made his decision on the air and the audience was hearing of the evaluation of each call live. I think that should be considered in the future. Makes all officials accountable.
It would nice if the replay official had to present his case for not overturning a call, while on the air. There was a spring Pro league where the replay official made his decision on the air and the audience was hearing of the evaluation of each call live. I think that should be considered in the future. Makes all officials accountable.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:35 pm to bluedragon
Harsin still should’ve used a timeout to make them review it.
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