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re: New Head Coach Thread: Officially Official 2020
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:46 am to makersmark1
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:46 am to makersmark1
Kiffin would be great, I am still leaning Napier though.
Napier is available right now. Kiffin plays LSU this weekend.
Would love to hear some legit information other than "so and so really wants the job, Auburn's interest is unknown" and "Kevin Steele and the power brokers have been manuevering to make him HC since 2017".
What a bunch of bullshite.
Napier is available right now. Kiffin plays LSU this weekend.
Would love to hear some legit information other than "so and so really wants the job, Auburn's interest is unknown" and "Kevin Steele and the power brokers have been manuevering to make him HC since 2017".
What a bunch of bullshite.
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Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:48 am to BuckFama334
Just announce Napier already
Go get him
Go get him
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:50 am to CreweBilt
Lane Kiffin isn't really controllable. That would be a positive of hiring him.
There will be no keep the defensive staff or hire this alum being pushed on him. The guy is going to hire and tweet and say and do whatever the frick he wants.
That is a refreshing quality for our HC. Judging by our history, it probably makes him unhireable at Auburn.
There will be no keep the defensive staff or hire this alum being pushed on him. The guy is going to hire and tweet and say and do whatever the frick he wants.
That is a refreshing quality for our HC. Judging by our history, it probably makes him unhireable at Auburn.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:50 am to Weagle25
Serious question: Are we prepared to say that Billy Napier is the best potentially available coach?
He seems likable and promising on paper. He's been my lean since this all started -- I just don't know a ton about him. I just don't see hiring anything less than the best we can get our hands on, for 21 million.
(That's why I'm against Steele. It's nothing against him personally)
He seems likable and promising on paper. He's been my lean since this all started -- I just don't know a ton about him. I just don't see hiring anything less than the best we can get our hands on, for 21 million.
(That's why I'm against Steele. It's nothing against him personally)
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 8:51 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:54 am to CreweBilt
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Serious question: Are we prepared to say that Billy Napier is the best potentially available coach?
I, personally, would get most excited about Matt Campbell. The guy has had sustained success at Iowa State.
Recruiting is the only question mark but he always comes across as genuinely caring about his players which I would think translates into recruiting results.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:55 am to BuckFama334
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I am torn over Lane.
Same here. He has a brilliant offensive mind. He's becoming a better overall coach(i.e. not just a coordinator anymore), but he's gotta grow up.
I'm afraid he may just be a guy that doesn't happen for, but I do think to make it to the next level, the visor tossing during a play and constant jabbing of other coaches, off the field concerns, etc needs to be toned down.
And he absolutely would need to prove his maturity for any job like Texas, bama, LSU to show interest if those spots open up.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:55 am to CreweBilt
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Yes. If Lane came and we held on to most of the defensive staff, we'd probably kill it for a year, maybe two, and that'd be it. It would probably be fun while it lasted, but there's no way he'll be anywhere for the long haul. He is an opportunist who will climb to the top of his career (again), eventually finding a position which is beyond his abilities, and get busted back down.
Where is he going to go that is a "bigger" job than Auburn? This is where some of you guys hold incorrectly low opinions about this job - there is a reason why nobody leaves Auburn, they get fired. Lane Kiffin left Tennessee for his alma-mater (an equally elite job) so he's already done that. He's already done the NFL as well. Those are normally the two only "angles" that would create the opportunity for a school like Auburn to lose their HC: he either goes to the NFL, or the alma-mater comes calling. Since he's already done both of those things and failed, the likelihood of him "job hopping" is significantly reduced.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:56 am to metafour
sorry I'm splitting my time between here and discord
N20AU landed at Huntsville Int'l Airport this morning
N20AU landed at Huntsville Int'l Airport this morning
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:57 am to ridlejs
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I, personally, would get most excited about Matt Campbell. The guy has had sustained success at Iowa State.
This. Matt Campbell has won Big 12 coach of the year twice at Iowa st. He’s proven himself at Toledo and ISU.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:58 am to BuckFama334
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That is a refreshing quality for our HC.
Lane’s first press conference:
“Auburn is a great place. No doubt. we will need a good week of practice for each game we compete in because we are in the best division in college football, and everything that goes with that.”
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:58 am to CreweBilt
I think we could hire a more recognizable name than Napier, doesn't make it the right hire though.
Dan Quinn is a bigger name. He was the HC of the Falcons and went to a Super Bowl. I don't want him anywhere near Auburn and don't believe he would win a championship here.
Based on everything you see and hear, Napier has the pedigree and respect. He just needs a bigger platform like an Auburn. He turned down Miss St, he is selective.
All things considered, I think Napier is the best hire. We can have sustained championship level success for the next 20 years under him.
In my opinion, Meyer, Stoops, Kiffin, Steele, Quinn, Sark don't offer the potential of that kind of long term success and program elevation.
Dan Quinn is a bigger name. He was the HC of the Falcons and went to a Super Bowl. I don't want him anywhere near Auburn and don't believe he would win a championship here.
Based on everything you see and hear, Napier has the pedigree and respect. He just needs a bigger platform like an Auburn. He turned down Miss St, he is selective.
All things considered, I think Napier is the best hire. We can have sustained championship level success for the next 20 years under him.
In my opinion, Meyer, Stoops, Kiffin, Steele, Quinn, Sark don't offer the potential of that kind of long term success and program elevation.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:01 am to BuckFama334
What I like about Nappy is he just does his job. No BS like Lane.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:03 am to metafour
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Lane Kiffin left Tennessee for his alma-mater
Lane went to Fresno State.
It's not that I see other jobs as better than Auburn. I just think Lane is one of those guys that is attracted to shiny things and can't sit still for long.
He would probably bolt just because that is what he does. He has never held a job longer than 5 years (USC Asst from 2002-06).
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:06 am to AUCE05
Downvote away, but how do y’all pick Napier who has only 3 full seasons as a HC at ULL, over Matt Campbell who has had 10 full seasons as a HC, with 5 of those in the Big 12 with a trend of success.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:08 am to Rhino5
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but how do y’all pick Napier
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over Matt Campbell
Well that buyout that Campbell has is one thing
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:09 am to BuckFama334
Lane is also the son of a job hopping coach, Monte Kiffin.
Monte has bounced between college and NFL jobs every 2-3 years since Lane was a baby.
It's in Lane's blood not to stay put.
Monte has bounced between college and NFL jobs every 2-3 years since Lane was a baby.
It's in Lane's blood not to stay put.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:12 am to beaver
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N20AU landed at Huntsville Int'l Airport this morning
Probably some student pilot getting flight hours and trolling everybody.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:12 am to Rhino5
I said this in the discord, but Midwestern guys in Southern recruit living rooms can be an issue.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:14 am to Rhino5
Campbell is a fine coach. He is a program builder and a winner.
I think he is best suited for overachieving at programs like Iowa State. He also has never had to spar with the likes of Saban or Kirby on the recruiting trail.
Napier has thrived in the Clemson/Bama environment. He branched out to get a HC opportunity, where he has won consistently.
He even beat Iowa State & Campbell this year while being on the road and probably way overmatched talent wise.
I think he is best suited for overachieving at programs like Iowa State. He also has never had to spar with the likes of Saban or Kirby on the recruiting trail.
Napier has thrived in the Clemson/Bama environment. He branched out to get a HC opportunity, where he has won consistently.
He even beat Iowa State & Campbell this year while being on the road and probably way overmatched talent wise.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:14 am to BuckFama334
I don't want Kiffin, but I'm about to defend him a little bit.
He was given a job he had no business having when he was 31, then offered an opportunity to get out from under Al Davis a year or so later to go to Tenn, THEN offered his dream job @ USC after 1 year. Since then, he's pretty much followed a reasonable path. 3 seasons as a coordinator, 3 seasons as a head coach at FAU, now Ole Miss.
I'd personally grant him some leeway in the shiny things...those were basically thrown at him at a very young age, and that reputation has stuck with him.
He was given a job he had no business having when he was 31, then offered an opportunity to get out from under Al Davis a year or so later to go to Tenn, THEN offered his dream job @ USC after 1 year. Since then, he's pretty much followed a reasonable path. 3 seasons as a coordinator, 3 seasons as a head coach at FAU, now Ole Miss.
I'd personally grant him some leeway in the shiny things...those were basically thrown at him at a very young age, and that reputation has stuck with him.
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