re: Learning about QB position

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This is an in play decision on location of football. If defender is on top, throw to back shoulder. If defender is in trail, arc it deep.

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I'll often use Bo's 4th quarter TD against Oregon in his first start as an example of "throwing them open."

4th quarter and we're driving and getting extrememly close to Ander's FG range. Convention dictates that you keep it simple and preserve clock via short, high percentage passes to the sideline.

That's exactly what Oregon was expecting and Gus knew it and made the perfect call. The Z and F ran outs while the Y and X ran flys, i.e. a psuedo flat-7 concept, perfectly tailored to forcing a bad matchup in a situation where your opponent is wary of shallow passes to shorten a game winning FG attempt.

And with the matchup Seth got, the throw didn't have to be all that good (and it wasn't), it just had to be serviceable, where Seth's physical advantage was too much for an overmatched DB in a poor position to overcome (which it was).

Gus caught a lot of crap for his playcalling and rightfully so, but he made a good call on that deep one.

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Is a step 30 inches or so?

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A 3 step drop from the LOS should have you end up being about 5 yards deep. The vast majority of that will come on the first step with the other 2 making sure you're getting yourself set.

This is different in the gun and coaching on it varies wildly, which can lead to a lot of bad habits. This is why it's a concern for pro scouts when prospects have operated exclusively out of the gun.

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Hats off to these guys. Even a walkon 4th QB has skills that I never had.

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People have no idea how beastly just about anyone on a D1 roster is.

I had dreams of D1 football early on in my high school career. An encounter with an absolute freak of a lineman at Huffman named Dominic Lee ended that illusion. Huffman had some beastly lines at that time but he was special. Ended up at Alabama. Didn't do much in college but he was stinking good. Big, fast and awesome.

We were running the wing-T. Like the veer a lot of the blocking was about angles and getting position on your man, lot of down blocking and the like. We were running a simple counter early on in the game with me on the backside of the play. Somehow I drew him as my assignment. Well, I did a pretty good job off the line blocking down to my right. Got my leverage, my hat across his chest, and he was out of the play.

Motherfricker bulled my arse 8 yards into the backfield lol.

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BigBen I don't think he's being serious with the questions. He's trying to get Bluedragon to come out his lair.

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At this point I'm just humoring him lol.

Actually, I like this thread.

It is fun to learn more.

I’ll admit, it was tongue in cheek at first, but the more we see how complex even the simplest plays are; the more respect I have for those who have played the position at any level.

I would be easy to defend. Go cover zero and let them go after 15 yards. I lack the arm strength to make long throws and would probably check to a run 95% of the time.

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that 95% if you haven't gone to a run play quickly becomes 100% run after a dude 6'4" 260 hits you about the time you complete your drop to throw and just buries you into the ground.

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Ever had to run scout team? It wasn't so much "go out there and run this play" so much as "go out there and get your arse kicked by the starters - who all have 2 years and 30ish pounds on you - for 2 hours." I can identify every scar I got during my sophomore year lol.

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nah we didn't have a scout team in high school even though I didn't go to a tiny school we were small. 3A but football wasn't our thing. Baseball and Basketball school. My senior year we only had 17 football players. We couldn't even scrimmage.

So yes playing on friday night and then to work saturday morning unloading a feed truck wasn't very fun. I worked at the local everything store... gas, groceries, horse/chicken/dog food.

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Obviously we weren't as big as we are now but still a 6A school and the team was still huge. Unless you cracked the 2 deep as a sophomore you were going to be running scout team and your game reps were JV unless we were going caboose mode at the tail end of a game.

Holding down a job was tough during football and soccer seasons was tough. Thankfully my boss at the time was extremely cool about it.

Oh our dumbass AD scheduled all the big schools. We played Thompson, Pelham, schools like that in our non-region games. Our region was chelsea, briarwood, bibb county, BB Comer, Calera.

So I never came off the field. Punter, Punt returner, deep kickoff return, flag man on kickoff ( remember back when the dude would stand by the kicking tee with his arms raised lol that was me on kick off) QB on offense, SS 9th grade year, MLB 10th-12th on defense. So I would be beat to hell. Went 2 years without winning a game. We finally beat the alabama school of the deaf to break the losing streak 12-6.

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This is a variation of a pass route tree. It's based on what you're taught by the coaches you have.

In our system. If you received a play from the bench ..the formation, back set and actual play was sent in. If you had a pass opportunity or wanted to throw ..we may get a formation and a back set, but seldom did we get the route combinations. I knew what receivers were on the field and the best combinations to use based on that week's practices. You may say "Back's right, pitch series, fake cross buck 42, pass 3,5,6,7 If you needed a safety valve the back knew to go left or right based on what he saw, that was route number 5.

There are about forty different trees. What I don't like about the game today, is that the entire play is sent from the sideline. Including the routes. If I'm on the field and have a receiver that knows he can get free by running a variation of a route ...If the coaches have confidence in our combination ...The Quarterback is the field general, he should be able to change that route if the confidence is there.

The rest of his list is dedicated to talent and the ability to learn outside of the classroom (Football practice field under the supervision of coaches.) I learned the fine art of the position ...but was more or less self taught concerning touch and timing. MY QB Coach played QB at West Point. I believed the man walked on water.