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Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:41 pm
Most say Gus started hot and faded as he went through the years. Thought it was an interesting stat below
Gus first 3 seasons - 27 wins
Gus last 3 seasons - 27 wins
** Excluding the 2020 Covid season of 6-4.
Gus first 3 seasons - 27 wins
Gus last 3 seasons - 27 wins
** Excluding the 2020 Covid season of 6-4.
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:44 pm to CorchJay
Close to half of the first 3 season total was the 2013 season
'15 was horrible. '18-'20 is inexcusable as well considering the program should have been coasting by then. As well as the talent level aside from the OL.
'15 was horrible. '18-'20 is inexcusable as well considering the program should have been coasting by then. As well as the talent level aside from the OL.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:51 pm to IAmNERD
It's just an interesting stat. Goes in the face of everything that has been said that the program was fading or stale.
And yes we need O linemen. We need dynamic WRs and quality Safety depth.
And yes we need O linemen. We need dynamic WRs and quality Safety depth.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:54 pm to CorchJay
Well the first 3 are pretty skewed by the 2013 season.
And as an offensive coach, he did flame out. His offenses were great in the beginning and we used to say "Man just wait till he finds a DC! We will be unstoppable"
Then he found a DC and his offense started sucking
And as an offensive coach, he did flame out. His offenses were great in the beginning and we used to say "Man just wait till he finds a DC! We will be unstoppable"
Then he found a DC and his offense started sucking
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:57 pm to Skyler97
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And as an offensive coach, he did flame out
I would like to see the comparison of 2013-14 vs the other 6 years.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:59 pm to Skyler97
Maybe he made a calculated judgement that I need to keep my defense fresh and not go as fast on offense. Win with field position and FGs. averaging 9-3 is a pretty dang good record regardless of program considering the schedule each year plus the out of conference P5 teams.
In no way am I saying that it wasn't time for a change. Just saying who is to say Gus didn't actually adjust his offense to protect the defense more.
In no way am I saying that it wasn't time for a change. Just saying who is to say Gus didn't actually adjust his offense to protect the defense more.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:59 pm to CorchJay
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It's just an interesting stat. Goes in the face of everything that has been said that the program was fading or stale.
Yeah I'm not trying to disparage your post in anyway. But the offense was certainly stale (maybe not the entire program) and that is a huge knock against Gus considering his background.
'13 and '17 win totals are the two seasons that balance each of those 3 yr blocks out. Everything outside of that was very, very average.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:02 pm to CorchJay
And Saban adjusted his offense to actually win?
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:02 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
2013 - 501.3 YPG (2nd SEC)
2014 - 485.0 YPG (2nd SEC)
2015 - 370.0 YPG (10th SEC)
2016 - 440.8 YPG (6th SEC)
2017 - 451.6 YPG (3rd SEC)
2018 - 389.9 YPG (11th SEC)
2019 - 406.5 YPG (6th SEC)
2020 - 385.0 YPG (9th SEC)
2014 - 485.0 YPG (2nd SEC)
2015 - 370.0 YPG (10th SEC)
2016 - 440.8 YPG (6th SEC)
2017 - 451.6 YPG (3rd SEC)
2018 - 389.9 YPG (11th SEC)
2019 - 406.5 YPG (6th SEC)
2020 - 385.0 YPG (9th SEC)
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:04 pm to CorchJay
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Maybe he made a calculated judgement that I need to keep my defense fresh and not go as fast on offense. Win with field position and FGs. averaging 9-3 is a pretty dang good record regardless of program considering the schedule each year plus the out of conference P5 teams.
Averages are misleading. Gus may have averaged 9 wins but he only won 9 games 3 times in 8 seasons (this is counting 2020 but we wouldn't have won 9 games this year lol)
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:05 pm to IAmNERD
That's Auburn history in a nutshell. Every 10 years a possible undefeated season. A couple SEC championships or at least now with the championship game playing for a couple. A couple of average type years and a couple years where the roster turns over and are below average.
Hopefully we punch out 5-6 10 win+ seasons in a row. It'd be a nice change.
Hopefully we punch out 5-6 10 win+ seasons in a row. It'd be a nice change.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:08 pm to CorchJay
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That's Auburn history in a nutshell. Every 10 years a possible undefeated season. A couple SEC championships or at least now with the championship game playing for a couple. A couple of average type years and a couple years where the roster turns over and are below average.
I mean you can only get by maintaining the average for so long. Nobody has ever said Gus was the worst coach in Auburn history, he just was never going to consistently get us to the next level
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:09 pm to Skyler97
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but we wouldn't have won 9 games this year
So you think if we played the usual MTSU, Samford, and Southern Miss as the cupcakes on a normal schedule we don't manage to win those?
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:18 pm to AUCE05
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And Saban adjusted his offense to actually win?
Bama could run the I formation and still win 12 games a season. Georgia just did it up until this season and lost the NC in OT to bama.
Bama talent UGA talent > Auburn Talent. That is the biggest problem. Going into 2020 the Roster talent difference between Bama and Auburn is the same as the talent difference between Auburn and Kentucky. And UGA was rated 1, bama 2 entering the season based just on roster.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:27 pm to CorchJay
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So you think if we played the usual MTSU, Samford, and Southern Miss as the cupcakes on a normal schedule we don't manage to win those?
We lost to UA, UGA and A&M and would have lost to North Carolina probably. So that's 4 there. We'd have to win every single other game to get 9. And we'd likely lose a dumb one like South Car
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:28 pm to CorchJay
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Most say Gus started hot and faded as he went through the years. Thought it was an interesting stat below
Gus first 3 seasons - 27 wins
Gus last 3 seasons - 27 wins
** Excluding the 2020 Covid season of 6-4.
IMO what did Gus in is all the missed chances to win games he should have won.
2014 A&M, Wisconsin
2015 arkie, uga
2016 uga
2017 LSU, UCF
2018 UTk
2019 UF
2020 USCe
Those are just a few examples.
I can't think of a single game he won that he wasn't supposed to win or at least weren't toss ups.
Not to mention the perplexing loses where he probably didn't have the best team but somehow was in the game but managed to lose anyway. 2016 Clemson, 2017 Clemson, 2018 LSU, etc...
This post was edited on 12/24/20 at 9:07 am
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:49 pm to Skyler97
What about points
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:56 pm to CorchJay
Gustav’s first 22 games: 19-3 (.864)
Gustav’s last 93 games: 58-35 (.624)
Gustav’s last 93 games: 58-35 (.624)
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:03 pm to Tigerman97
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I can't think of a single game he won that he wasn't supposed to win or at least was a toss up.
LOL
That's just dumb
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:04 pm to CorchJay
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Gus first 3 seasons - 27 wins
Gus last 3 seasons - 27 wins
Auburn's average wins per year in the history of the program
8-9 wins per season
In its history
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