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Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:28 am to
Looking way ahead here but I just noticed the #1 prospect in 2023 is a DE from Milton, same high school as Carl Lawson. Anybody heard anything at all if AU is on his radar? Carl needs to take bagman duties here.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:39 am to
Paging Lanier
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:43 am to
4* RB Byron Cardwell placed Auburn in his final 4, and had some nice things to say. But he’s had two CBs to Oregon last night and that seemed to be the direction he was going before Auburn got involved.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:15 pm to
Josh Vitale:

quote:

Auburn spent $648,643 on recruiting during the 2019-20 fiscal year.

Alabama spent more than $2.6 million.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Auburn spent $648,643 on recruiting during the 2019-20 fiscal year.

Alabama spent more than $2.6 million.

That’s a lot of happy meals
Posted by ShredSquatch
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:45 pm to
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That’s a lot of happy meals

And chargers with cash in the trunk!

Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 3:48 pm to
And more than recouped their investment.
Posted by jt33
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:15 pm to
Something similar was reported by 247 sometime during the season. Its part of the reason I defended Gus about some things. This is only part of the way he was restricted.. Hopefully, now that they got what they wanted, the powers that be at Auburn will give Harsin the support necessary to succeed.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:27 pm to
It’s hard for me to believe they’d restrict recruiting spending but payout over $20mil+ in buyouts

We heard a lot of restriction rumors over the last few years from the paysites and they seemed to be mostly proven false. The best one was that Gus couldn’t authorize more than a 1 year deal on coordinators. Then everyone got multi year deals

Anyway. I don’t know why we spent so much less but I’m unwilling to believe the restriction stuff. I’m more willing to believe in a poor strategy that resulted in less costs
Posted by AuSteeler
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:33 pm to
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It’s hard for me to believe they’d restrict recruiting spending but payout over $20mil+ in buyouts

We heard a lot of restriction rumors over the last few years from the paysites and they seemed to be mostly proven false. The best one was that Gus couldn’t authorize more than a 1 year deal on coordinators. Then everyone got multi year deals

Anyway. I don’t know why we spent so much less but I’m unwilling to believe the restriction stuff. I’m more willing to believe in a poor strategy that resulted in less costs



And tell me if I am wrong on this...

...but the recruiting budget IS part of the athletic budget which is controlled by the AD but the buyout was money put up by PTB and wealthy donors and would have come from a different pot of money?
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:55 pm to
As far as I know — there’s no chance the department is covering the buyouts solely out of the budget.

There are an enormous amount of funding streams utilized by the department and nearly all of them can be used for staff recruiting purposes. Including streams from donors. There’s a lot of pots, and most are not used neatly at all.

Anyhow, it’s impossible to dive deeply into these rumors because they’re just that... rumors. But our paysite pals are routinely wrong about the rumors so it’s hard for me to base anything concrete on them.

But back to recruiting:

What I know is that Alabama spends a lot of money on recruiting in comparison to Auburn. A lot of that has to do with the footprints that each program recruits. Alabama’s is very large. Auburn’s has become increasingly smaller except the the occasional year where we dip heavily into MS, TX, or FL.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:57 pm to
It’s also unclear clear to me what gets counted in that public amount released by the universities
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

It’s hard for me to believe they’d restrict recruiting spending but payout over $20mil+ in buyouts

We heard a lot of restriction rumors over the last few years from the paysites and they seemed to be mostly proven false. The best one was that Gus couldn’t authorize more than a 1 year deal on coordinators. Then everyone got multi year deals

Anyway. I don’t know why we spent so much less but I’m unwilling to believe the restriction stuff. I’m more willing to believe in a poor strategy that resulted in less costs
Just my opinion, but I think some people really, really wanted Gus out (for obvious reasons)and we're willing to eat the cost. Its part of why it took so long to get approval for new facilities and other things, part of the reason Gus was going to put 5 Mil of his own money towards the football only facility (I could have the building wrong)is because other people we're refusing to spend money for him.

Just my opinion though. There could be other reasons no one knows about though and I could be completely wrong. I'm not sure any other schools scaled back spending the way we did though, especially those that bring in the money Auburn does.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:01 pm to
That could all be true That’s the bitch about these rumors and why I tend to stay away from them. One leads to 5 more
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

That could all be true That’s the bitch about these rumors and why I tend to stay away from them. One leads to 5 more
True. I wish some of these team "reporters" would do some digging to find out why the budget for so many things was decreased.. won't happen though

In recruiting news it sounds like its going to be a battle for Trevin Wallance. UK is apparently pushing the hardest right now and UGA is possibly creeping into the picture with a blueshirt offer.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 5:37 am to
quote:

It’s also unclear clear to me what gets counted in that public amount released by the universities


This Jones, you are very correct. I have no idea how they come up with the numbers, but for goodness sake, we probably give away 630 grand in clothing alone to recruits and families, and another 250 grand on NCAA compliance. We have an entire department dedicated to recruiting, several salaries, offices, IT, travel, meals, benefits. What about the coaches and the millions spent, should not some of that be allocated/considered recruiting dollars spent (after all we consistently hear about how much/well they recruit as a job prerequisite)? The trips, the maintenance of planes, the housing of recruits and families on trips, the list goes on and on.

I highly doubt we spend a paltry 630K or Alabama spends 2.6. I would believe they spend four times as much as we do, and its in the millions in both cases.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 8:08 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:02 pm to
Any idea if we’ll be getting some portal commits soon?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33317 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:46 pm to
Nothing imminent. We’re a week away from February so most of these transfers aren’t going to be spring transfers anyway

I think the transfer market will pick up for us late spring
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:25 pm to
Jonesy
Posted by AUEE13
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:58 am to
Decision day for Byron Cardwell. Announcement at 2 P.M. (I'm assuming Pacific time).
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