re: I think we might be overreacting

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1. You need to learn what a fact is. This is the second time you've erroneously claimed this.

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You need to learn to give an example of what the hell you are talking about. This is the millionth time you’ve accused someone of something without even stating what you’re talking about.

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2. You are being disingenuous by pretending like this is all about one game and not about a 2.5 season body of work.

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You are being disingenuous by pretending that any coach could have done much better in the first two seasons considering the Harsin debacle that had to be overcome… and you’re being disingenuous to pretend we had better options to begin with after firing two coaches in two years.

I’m judging this team on this season. Period. We were an SEC officiating screw-up away from being 4-0 and ranked in the Top 15 after four weeks. Don’t come here and act like this team didn’t execute well overall as a whole in those first several games. This team has had one performance that was absolutely horrible and worthy of tough criticism.

Im sorry not everyone is willing to go along with your destructive nature of trying to tear down the program. Im willing to give them some more games to fix the issues on the O-line. Sorry you have a problem with that.

We are 3-28 on third downs in SEC play.

We have scored roughly 30 points in the last 10 quarters.

Hugh Freeze has averaged 15 ppg in his losses on the plains.

Stop lying about Texas A&M being a one game abberation.

We are historically inept.

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But we’re not. Not as a whole on the season. Looking at the efficiency metrics through 5 games: Auburn is #23 in KFord Auburn is #23 in ESPN FPI Auburn is #26 in FEI Auburn is #30 in SP+

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What do the conference only metrics say? I know Auburn is shite in offensive efficiency

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You are being disingenuous by pretending that any coach could have done much better in the first two seasons considering the Harsin debacle that had to be overcome

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in Freezus’ first year, we went into the bye week in 2023 with a 6-4 record, having won three straight SEC games by double digits

since then, with an additional 24 months to build his roster and install his offense, we have gone 7-12 against FBS teams, and 3-11 vs P4 competition

i am willing to wager that the two “elite” teams we have lost to thus far this season will combine for at least 6 regular season losses

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Im willing to give them some more games to fix the issues on the O-line.

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so, if they somehow manage to get the offense back on track by, say, the Kentucky game, at which point we will likely be 3-5 with two more ranked opponents on our schedule, you’ll consider the season a success?

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You need to learn to give an example of what the hell you are talking about. This is the millionth time you’ve accused someone of something without even stating what you’re talking about.

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You spent an entire post claiming everyone was melting down over a single game. When called on it you claimed you were only stating "facts". Now numerous posters have pointed out to you the ridiculousness of your original claim, using actual facts, you have since shifted your statement to saying only your stats were facts.

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You are being disingenuous by pretending that any coach could have done much better in the first two seasons considering the Harsin debacle that had to be overcome

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Nope, once again you're being disingenuous. Despite many people never wanting Freeze to begin with, including myself, I don't think anybody was calling for his job after the first two years. I think everyone was fine with year 1 even though it was soured by 4th and 31 and a bowl game gag. Year 2 there were statistically positive signs but we just couldn't figure out how to win games. After 2.5 years of recruiting and portaling there is zero excuse for Auburn to be this bad at what our head coach specializes in, especially considering its gotten worse. MSU was in a far worse spot than us with far fewer resources and Lebby, in year 2, has them playing at a level Hugh has arguably yet to reach at Auburn certainly considering expectations and historical performance.

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and you’re being disingenuous to pretend we had better options to begin with after firing two coaches in two years.

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Again, disingenuous and pure speculation. Do you honestly believe there isn't a coach in the country that Auburn could have paid millions of dollars to that wouldn't have us playing at least respectable football right now in all three phases of the game? One that wouldn't have strung together two historically bad performances in a row when it was put up or shut up time?

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I’m judging this team on this season. Period. We were an SEC officiating screw-up away from being 4-0 and ranked in the Top 15 after four weeks

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If Harsin had left more talent, if Throne didn't throw interceptions, if we didn't rush only 2, if our kicker wasn't sick, if we get rid of Montgomery, if we just let him get his QB, if Durkin didn't turtle up with a lead if, if, if. The longer we keep Hugh the longer the list of "ifs" will become. It's wild you don't see it because as has been pointed out many times we just lived this exact scenario with Gus for the last few years of his tenure.

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Im sorry not everyone is willing to go along with your destructive nature of trying to tear down the program.

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Brother pretty much everyone is where I'm at in regards to this coach and this program. There is nothing to tear down, we are at the bottom. The absolute rock bottom. Worse than the Barfield years. Worst program in the SEC this decade aside from Vandy who is currently in a better place than we are as of today. Where are you afraid of falling to?

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Im willing to give them some more games to fix the issues on the O-line. Sorry you have a problem with that.

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This is fine and I hope you're right and we come out after the bye and shock UGA. There is zero reason to have any expectation of that happening but I hope that it does.

What I have a problem with is your strawman arguments and moving the goalposts and pretending like Hugh is the best Auburn can do.

ETA: Just look at the numerous videos of people who know football breaking down the absurdity of what our coach is trying to do offenesively.

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ESPN FPI is a joke. Last season it had our 5-7 team at #31, while 10-3 Illinois sat at #42 (a team that beat #15 South Carolina in their Bowl game - the same South Carolina team that blew out the only decent team that we barely beat last season: A&M).

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Wow.

789 please find more relevant material.

My fall ball 12U softball team has gotten run ruled two games in a row.

I smooth it over by saying those teams have girls are a travel ball team that practice all summer and they dont have a life.

Fans get restless tho

Just remind them nothing can be expected until you've had 4 years to install your knowledge and build your culture and that if they make a change there is zero chance they can get someone better and they'll just get run ruled even harder
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He tried to slap me with Auburn's efficiency ratings and last game was a one game abberation. I died a little.

Auburn sucks. Hugh Freeze is a short timer at this point. We will make him a wealthy man soon by paying him to stop working her. We will hire a new coach, I will foolishly buy in, he will be average, we will say give him time, won't get better, pay him to go away, repeat, repeat, repeat. Freeze has a worse record than Harsin at this point.. Just stocked the pantry for the next guy, but we lose that when we fire Freeze. So stupid and has become unwatchable and has made it almost comical and impossible to even care anymore. Seems the game has passed us by