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re: Harsin is staying per Pete Thamel

Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:49 am to
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Now he and his assistant may have auburn by the balls for libel and defamation.


He really doesn't. It is so difficult to prove something like libel or defamation.

Ironically, if he is retained assuming the investigation was into the concerns of racism and/or less likely the possible affair with a subordinate both of those are hard to prove. The racism thing is nearly impossible and the school would need PI type work to prove the other if it was a part of the investigation.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:50 am to
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I did. I edited my post above. I am saying the opposite - Blueline is saying that.
I know. My posts were in response to blueline.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8346 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:54 am to
We should just ignore it and act like it was no big deal. Blame it on social media gone wild and never speak a word of it again. Swallow that shite like a boss and change the subject #energyvampires
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:54 am to
He won’t recruit worth a shite because he sucks at it. If he hires some great recruiters and gets out of the way maybe we can have some decent classes.

So I guess the boogeyman behind the scenes was really nothing like I’ve been saying. And the university was doing the due diligence on some type of complaints.

Weird huh
Posted by Blueline379
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2016
1281 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:54 am to
Maybe we should see how it plays out for everyone.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43998 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:56 am to
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This whole saga has exposed a lot of you as unstable, highly emotional, and prone to overreact to every small piece of information.

Once rumors began leaky damage was being done, but having the coach we all thought we were going to have next season isn’t a guaranteed 5 or more year death sentence to the program.



Fact.
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
895 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:57 am to
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We should just ignore it and act like it was no big deal.


Like George Costanza going back to work the Monday after he told off the boss and quit.
Posted by Je23Mo
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
680 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:59 am to
This whole saga has exposed a lot of you as unstable, highly emotional, and prone to overreact to every small piece of information.

Once rumors began leaky damage was being done, but having the coach we all thought we were going to have next season isn’t a guaranteed 5 or more year death sentence to the program.



I have wanted to type this same sentiment several times during this fiasco.

Auburn has survived much worse. Terry Bowden is a great example. This too shall pass.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34510 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:03 am to
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He won’t recruit worth a shite because he sucks at it. If he hires some great recruiters and gets out of the way maybe we can have some decent classes.


A disservice to the recruiting discussion are folks melting over an incoming “50-60” ranked class with no top 250 recruits. Because we’ll finish much higher than that and people will feel relieved.

We finished 19th with 3 guys in the top 250. We’re going to finish in the top 20 again. The issue, though, is that the difference between #20 and #5 is maybe larger than #20 and #50.

Anyway, just a warning disclaimer. You can talk about a #19 ranked class as a bad thing. It helps reframe people’s expectations. And that’s better than melting over an unrealistic 50th or 60th ranked class
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9564 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:05 am to
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A disservice to the recruiting discussion are folks melting over an incoming “50-60” ranked class with no top 250 recruits. Because we’ll finish much higher than that and people will feel relieved.

We finished 19th with 3 guys in the top 250. We’re going to finish in the top 20 again. The issue, though, is that the difference between #20 and #5 is maybe larger than #20 and #50.

Anyway, just a warning disclaimer. You can talk about a #19 ranked class as a bad thing. It helps reframe people’s expectations. And that’s better than melting over an unrealistic 50th or 69th ranked class



We aren’t touching 12+ four stars like we got in the 2022 class. It’s going to be barren.

Also, 20th isn’t even close to good enough to be competitive in the SEC West.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9132 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:07 am to
Melt. Harsin’s a winner and he’s proven he won’t back down from a fight.
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2101 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:09 am to
dillon how much is he paying you?
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9132 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:11 am to
I just can’t wait for the revenge tour.
Posted by tyler925
Auburn
Member since Oct 2019
2356 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:12 am to
Is it revenge if we win 5 games?
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:12 am to
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He won’t recruit worth a shite because he sucks at it. If he hires some great recruiters and gets out of the way maybe we can have some decent classes.

So I guess the boogeyman behind the scenes was really nothing like I’ve been saying. And the university was doing the due diligence on some type of complaints.

Weird huh


I hope to hell, that our admin has agreed to keep him, with the understanding Harsin HAS to make changes in certain areas he has neglected, weaked, and shown poor results incl:
1. recruiting (relationships w HS coaches, mommas/daddys etc)
2. Better recruiting coaches
3. work with NIL (if it's true he fought it)
4. relate better to ALL players
5. stability in his hires
6. Transfer portal to fill those areas weak in
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
895 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:14 am to
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Harsin’s a winner


Not in the last five tries.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17671 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:15 am to
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You can talk about a #19 ranked class as a bad thing.


That is my thing. That is not even good enough to compete in the SEC. Go look at UT's classes over the last 10 years and they were not far off from that number and they have sucked for a while. I hear people talking about at least Harsin saved recruiting and I have to believe their expectations are skewed.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9564 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:15 am to
He has an anchor tied around his neck now. Recruiting is only going to get a lot worse.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34510 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:20 am to
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We aren’t touching 12+ four stars like we got in the 2022 class. It’s going to be barren.


Right but what I’m trying to point out is that low 4* and high 3* guys count at essentially the same level.

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Also, 20th isn’t even close to good enough to be competitive in the SEC West.


Which is my point. We signed the #19 class in 2020 without a coach on ESD. Our floor is high in that regard but the difference between #5 and #20 is massive.

I’m just trying to steer you guys away from melting over 50th ranked classes because that’s unrealistic for Auburn. #20 is already bad in our conference. Melt about that
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9564 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:26 am to
Dude the general public thinks Harsin is a dead man walking and he already wasn’t a great recruiter to begin with. I’d be stunned if we touched the top 30.

The most likely scenario is we don’t pick up many commitments at all until he’s fired in December before signing day.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 11:29 am
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