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re: Gov. Ivey's Stay-At-Home Order

Posted on 4/20/20 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 2:23 pm to
Hey Rig. We just fighting. You know the new normal. It’s better then debating if Gus sucks or not.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 2:37 pm to
Oh well, so much for that.

Sweden Sees Jump in Coronavirus Deaths With Less Restrictive Guidelines Under Scrutiny
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20961 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:04 pm to
Jump maybe but still well below their neighboring countries. There will be spikes in every country. As soon as we go back to normal there will be spikes.

Morgan Stanley is also projecting another big spike to peak around the 1st of December. Hmmm how would they know how to project that? Maybe the election in November? Hmmm. Scare us back into hiding? Mail in ballots?

Wake the frick up people.

The head of the WHO isn’t even a Dr... he’s an ex terrorist lol. Bill and Melinda gates have spoken many times on reducing population with vaccines. What? Reducing population? I thought vaccines were supposed to cure people. Look into PEPFAR. How many millions has been spent on AIDS in Africa. It’s a giant slush fund.

Do your own research. Get away from news with an agenda. Whether that be fox msnbc cnn or all the other corporate media. Almost all news papers, media, and production companies are owned by 6 companies. 6... so much for differing opinions. Even fox is owned by the mouse now
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:09 pm to
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How is it so that Sweden is so much lower in deaths per millions


Per your link, they have the 8th highest death per million in the world. Despite their first case being a month after the US, they already surpassed the US' deaths per million.

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as opposed to neighboring countries on complete lockdown?


You may have missed geography class but their neighboring countries are Denmark, Norway and Finland which they have between 2-30x higher deaths per million

#1 Sweden 151 deaths per million

#2 Denmark 61 deaths per million
#3 Norwayt 31 deaths per million
#4 Finland 6 deaths per million



You may have guessed it but Denmark, Norway and Finland all have strict quarantine measures in place

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do your own research.


You should start
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:11 pm to
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Hey guys... what’s going on in here?


This CorchJay guy keeps coming into this thread posting things that are just factually wrong

Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:18 pm to
Corch, I am not trying to argue but did you read the article?
"Sweden’s figures are considerably more than in the rest of Scandinavia. While its population of over 10 million nearly doubles those of Denmark, Norway and Finland individually, its COVID-19 death toll was up to 17 times higher"

You say to do your own research, but you have several inaccuracies in that one post.

Tedros Adhanom is a doctor. Not sure how you can call him a terrorist.

Fox News is owned by Fox Corp.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Bill and Melinda gates


Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43888 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:38 pm to
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Do you donate to the ACLU?



The ACLU has been embarrassingly silent during this whole ordeal. I have always given them the benefit of the doubt, but their absence in this is glaring.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18434 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:50 pm to
Georgia is opening up FRIDAY. Limited, but it is time to slowly open up the country.

It was about flattening the curve. Yes, people will die, (Hope it is not me), but we have to take some risks.

Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

EDIT: CDC Website: LINK
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 4:52 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53593 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 5:38 pm to
Has meemaw made a statement yet
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9902 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 5:53 pm to
Good. It’s time. Not saying we should have large gatherings or go full bore but it’s time to start looking at things with more analysis than “EVERYONE IS GONNA DIE”
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20961 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:01 pm to
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Corch, I am not trying to argue but did you read the article?
"Sweden’s figures are considerably more than in the rest of Scandinavia. While its population of over 10 million nearly doubles those of Denmark, Norway and Finland individually, its COVID-19 death toll was up to 17 times higher"

You say to do your own research, but you have several inaccuracies in that one post.

Tedros Adhanom is a doctor. Not sure how you can call him a terrorist.

Fox News is owned by Fox Corp.



I'm not trying to argue either. Just taking the other side of the fence on the sky screamers. Yes Sweden is higher then some countries but much lower then others. That's my point.

Born in the city of Asmara, Eritrea, Dr Tedros holds a Doctorate of Philosophy... If you want to consider that a real doctor you can. If you aren't a medical doctor you aint a frickin doctor to be over the WHO.

Also this is very know his terrorist activities.... from an article ...

Journalist Abebe Gellaw claims Tedros was one of the top three members of the TPLF and that the party is "ultimately responsible for all the corruption, killings, torture, mass detention, land grab or displacement," he wrote in the Ethiopian Registrar.

The United States State Department has categorized TPLF as a terrorist organization due to its "violent activities before it became part of the ruling coalition and the government of Ethiopia in May 1991."

Also Fox Corp... from wikipedia

Fox Corporation (abbreviated Fox Corp. and informally "New Fox"; simply called as Fox) is an American media company headquartered in Midtown Manhattan, New York City. It was formed from the 2019 acquisition of 21st Century Fox (itself formed from the 2013 split of News Corporation) by The Walt Disney Company.

Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20961 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:12 pm to
Bill Gates quote from a TED talk... look it up if you don't believe the quote you can even watch it.

the following statement from Gates: “First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent …”
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20961 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:19 pm to
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This CorchJay guy keeps coming into this thread posting things that are just factually wrong


Facts are in the eye of the beholder I guess. I'm not looking for one sided facts. I'm looking for facts period.

Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9902 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:11 pm to
Wait, you think Bill Gates wants to kill people? Lmao
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37809 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Facts are in the eye of the beholder I guess. I'm not looking for one sided facts. I'm looking for facts period.


Wouldn't have known it by your claims.

Let's review

False Claim #1: Fox is owned by Disney
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Even fox is owned by the mouse now


"Fox Corp. deals primarily in the television broadcast, news, and sports broadcasting industries by way of the remaining 21st Century Fox assets that were not acquired by Disney"

"It is owned by the Murdoch family via a family trust with 39% interest; Rupert Murdoch is co-executive chairman, while his son Lachlan Murdoch is chairman and CEO."


False Claim #2: Sweden has lowest death rate in Europe
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In Europe, Sweden has the lowest death rate

Revised False Claim #2: Sweden has a higher death per 1m pop than neighbors
quote:

How is it so that Sweden is so much lower in deaths per millions as opposed to neighboring countries on complete lockdown?



I refuted this claim in this post LINK


False Claim #3: You presented as reliable/trustworthy that both a real model existed and should be relied on predicting 830,000 Suicides, making suicides by far the #1 killer in America in 2020
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If the economy stays shut down for another 2-3 month the projection of suicides is 830k people in the US this year.


Have yet to respond with a link to a real model of this absolutely bonkers claim

False Claim #4: NYC currently has 250 home deaths per day
quote:

New York City normally has 25 deaths per day at home. That number is now running about 250 a day.


There is absolutely no stat saying there there are 250 home deaths unrelated to COVID19 NYC

For reference, the Mar/Apr average deaths per day for NYC pre Corona were between 145-160. You are suggesting an additional 100 people are dying in there home


quote:

Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies


You have glass eyes or something? Beginning to make sense why even AUF banned you

This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 7:35 pm
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:34 pm to
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You know the new normal. It’s better then debating if Gus sucks or not.


No, this is all bullshite. You accused Bill Gates of having modern holocaust motives. Gene had a "gotcha" moment at your expense over the most recent COVID stats from Sweden. What a win, btw...

Both are stupid and Gus definitely sucks.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37809 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:44 pm to
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Gene had a "gotcha" moment at your expense over the most recent COVID stats from Sweden. What a win, btw...


Guy is a moron, no one should be forming an opinion either for/against opening back up based on that guy

Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20961 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:13 pm to
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Wait, you think Bill Gates wants to kill people? Lmao


what part of this statement is confusing? he specifically says if we do a great job on "new vaccines" we can lower the world population by 10 or 15 percent... the exact quote is below



the following statement from Gates: “First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent …”

Don't believe the quote look up his TED talk. It's plainly obvious. He's be a population reduction pusher for years now.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20961 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:22 pm to
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False Claim #4: NYC currently has 250 home deaths per day
quote:
New York City normally has 25 deaths per day at home. That number is now running about 250 a day.


There is absolutely no stat saying there there are 250 home deaths unrelated to COVID19 NYC

For reference, the Mar/Apr average deaths per day for NYC pre Corona were between 145-160. You are suggesting an additional 100 people are dying in there home


From the Gothamist… As of Monday afternoon, 2,738 New York City residents have died from ‘confirmed’ cases of COVID-19, according to the city Department of Health. That’s an average of 245 a day since the previous Monday.
But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed
- written April 7th if you want to look for yourself


I can do this all day if you like.
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