re: Freeze fired official/coaching search thread

Lane + Durkin is unbeatable combination. I know that perhaps it’s not going to happen but we had him 3 yrs ago. Today we have a top roster, great NIL and front office, and total alignment. We have everything Lane would want so hope we are trying again. Of course secure the contract this time asap. Roster would be retained and we will have great qb and offensive play.

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I think Brohm would love to be at Auburn or Florida and I bet he is talking to both right now. No matter what you hear him say in the media.

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Same for "Key" I know he's already interviewed for our job and he told the media the other day he "bleeds" GT colors he's building something there blah blah blah lol.

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and has shown an inability to maintain his defensive level as a head coach versus just being a DC.

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Ehhh this is overblown. Preparation through the week was fine he just got outcoached on gameday. I bet that happened even if he was solely DC for the game.

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bet that happened even if he was solely DC for the game.

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Nah. We held them to less than 230 total yards and 17 points last year, and got absolutely annihilated this year with a better defense. Their offense is a decent bit better this year, but we let them have the most yardage they've gotten in SEC play by a significant margin.

Durkin's defenses got way worse from year 1 to year 2 at Maryland, and our defense looked the worst it has looked since week 1 last week. We looked very sloppy, beyond Vandy having a good offense. And worse than that, we had zero adjustments to stop what they were doing.

Durkin has shown zero so far that makes anyone think he can have successful defenses as a head coach. We need more than lame excuses and hopium when deciding on our next head coach. The facts are Durkin has had terrible results with his defenses as a head coach, period.

The list of great DCs who were terrible head coaches is extremely long, whereas the list of head coaches who sucked in their first head coaching job and then went on to be successful later is almost non-existent (and I'm talking about a losing record here, not some 6-6,7-6 record type stuff which is fairly common).

It's baffling to me people think he's suddenly going to be a great coach because he starting coaching for us. He certainly didn't learn how to be a better head coach from Freeze or Jimbo.

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Preparation through the week was fine he just got outcoached on gameday. I bet

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And the fact you posted this as if it's all good or some kind of endorsement is hilarious.

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Nah. We held them to less than 230 total yards and 17 points last year, and got absolutely annihilated this year with a better defense. Their offense is a decent bit better this year, but we let them have the most yardage they've gotten in SEC play by a significant margin.

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Yeah they're coaches learn from game to game and had a tempo package they hadn't shown that much all year. And dj couldn't adjust.

And the fact you posted this as of it's all good or some kind of endorsement is hilarious.

The fact that you thought it was an endorsement is hilarious. Why tf would I use the term "outcoached" in an endorsement? Gd that really shouldn't even take complex reasoning to figure out.

SIAP

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”Several other coaches have already interviewed, according to sources. Jon Sumrall, Eli Drinkwitz, Brent Key, James Franklin and P.J. Fleck have all spoken with Auburn officials. I'm sure there are others, as I'm not privy to every name.”

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From Hoke FWIW

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Jon Sumrall, Eli Drinkwitz, Brent Key, James Franklin and P.J. Fleck have all spoken with Auburn officials

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This doesn't sound like "interviews". More like gauging interest.

That being said if Brent Key has been interviewed lock him down. O-line guy who saw a qb nobody was high on and designed a damn good offense around him. That sounds replicatable as hell to me. Get it done Cohen.

He and Brohm are head and shoulders above everybody else to me. And Brohm doesn't seem likely at this point so let's grab Key.

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The list of great DCs who were terrible head coaches is extremely long,

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As opposed to the list of great OCs?

Just got an instagram feed saying UF plane was in Atlanta suggesting Key was interviewing. Hope Cohen has reached out.

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Idk why people think a young coach like DJ can't get better at his job after half a decade.

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Because it pretty much never happens. Coaches who completely tank like he did on his first job and get fired with a losing record don't really turn out to be good coaches later.

The only real examples in the last 30-40 years I can think of where a coach had a losing record in their first job and were fired, and then went on to have any sort of real success are Ed O, Chizik (and he wasn't fired), and Lane Kiffin .

And Ed O and Chizik obviously just got lucky and caught lightning in a bottle. They had two decent seasons and one title year, then sucked.

Kiffin is really the only true example of what you are talking about, and he went straight from OC to the NFL in his 30s, which really isn't a fair comparison, and Al Davis is pretty much the only guy stupid enough to make that move at the time. Kiffin has had a winning record everywhere he has been in college as a head coach, and learned under Nick Saban, one of the best program builders ever.

How exactly is being a DC under Hugh Freeze and Jimbo Fisher in his I give up phase allowing Durkin to learn to be a better head coach?

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That is just rarely how it ever works. Sure keeps lane kiffin from fielding effective offenses dont it?

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It happens all the time. For every Kiffin there are 4-5 guys that can't do it. If it was that easy to do it there would be far less coaches that fail. It's really hard to be a good head coach and be the primary caller on one side of the ball. It's the exception, not the rule.