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re: Developing young players
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:40 am to Fear The Thumb
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:40 am to Fear The Thumb
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a Auburn RB gets injured and the whole offense gets derailed. Gus should have the next guy ready to go and never does
This is true with RB, but not much else. I don't want two QBs playing. Also Alabama has had the #1 recruiting class for a decade, that's just hard to duplicate. But yeah, spot on about Gus failing to develop depth at RB. If he's going to have a run-based offense then absolutely he needs 3 RB's that can step in and play. After KJ got injured the offense went to shite and we lost our last 2 games.
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:50 am to Rhino5
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This is true with RB,
We started hearing back in the summer the coaches were looking for a 3rd back. Pett or KJ were basically hurt all season. Why then did another back not get a fair shot? IMO it is more likely the backs weren't getting it done enough to take the risk in games that mattered.
I do agree Gus/Horton likes to get a player 1000 yards for recruiting purposes. KJ wasn't really one to break many long runs so it took him most of the game to break the 100 yard barrier.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:50 am to Tigerman97
Maybe it's time to rethink that 1000yrd recruiting philosophy. Sure we have recruited some pretty good backs, but we have been getting our butts spanked in RB recruiting by bama and uga for about 10 years
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:19 am to GruntAu
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Maybe it's time to rethink that 1000yrd recruiting philosophy. Sure we have recruited some pretty good backs, but we have been getting our butts spanked in RB recruiting by bama and uga for about 10 years
I don't disagree, but I am not the coach who can get fired if he loses whatever he has been using to recruit for the last 10 years, etc...
Posted on 1/11/18 at 11:00 am to WildWillie
I do wonder why we seem to be so late to the party in having true freshmen make major contributions. It's starting to happen at big programs all over the country but never for us.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 11:16 am to RandySavage
It seems to more an offensive thing than defense. Marlon had a great true freshman season and Brown would have if we did t have so much depth. Of course now days everything seems more like an offensive problem.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:16 pm to Tigerman97
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QB...Nobody gets a ton of meaningful snaps for their back up QB. Few teams have a legit answer at back up.
Bama backup QB during regular season
Passing: 35-53 for 470 yards, 8 TDs, 1 INT
Rushing: 15 for 106 yds, 2 TDs
AU backup QB during regular season
Passing: 6-7 for 45 yards*, 1 TD, 0 INTs
Rushing: 16 for 221 yds, 1 TD
I would argue that Bama's backup QB had several meaningful snaps during the season, in that he was prepared to take over for the starter when it counted. Do you think you could say the same about AU's backup?
(* The only downfield pass our backup QB attempted all season long was one he wasn't supposed to throw, against UGa. It accounted for 38 of his 45 total yards)
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:21 pm to FearlessFreep
Yep. The biggest problem is that when it is time for backups to go in, we don't run our offense for them to get some practice in. I understand in blowouts you run the ball more and stuff, but at some point you have to run your normal offense so they get actual game experience. That is why Gus struggles so much knowing what he has. All reps are in practice type settings and rarely in game type situations.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:46 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The biggest problem is that when it is time for backups to go in, we don't run our offense for them to get some practice in. I understand in blowouts you run the ball more and stuff, but at some point you have to run your normal offense so they get actual game experience
This.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:58 pm to FearlessFreep
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Bama backup QB during regular season
Passing: 35-53 for 470 yards, 8 TDs, 1 INT
Rushing: 15 for 106 yds, 2 TDs
AU backup QB during regular season
Passing: 6-7 for 45 yards*, 1 TD, 0 INTs
Rushing: 16 for 221 yds, 1 TD
I would argue that Bama's backup QB had several meaningful snaps during the season, in that he was prepared to take over for the starter when it counted. Do you think you could say the same about AU's backup?
(* The only downfield pass our backup QB attempted all season long was one he wasn't supposed to throw, against UGa. It accounted for 38 of his 45 total yards)
Life doesn't happen in a vacuum.
No way that happens if Hurts is a first year started struggling to grasp the totality of the O.
JS did great this year, but he came along slowly and down right struggled at times. He needed the reps.
IMO the RB stuff was as much about leaving KJ on the field with JS to help him than it was about RB's.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:50 pm to Tigerman97
quote:That's a valid point, but I'm still concerned that whomever is #2 going into 2018 won't get much of a chance to run the whole offense, based on Gustav's history (of course, he hasn't had the luxury of having a returning starter very often).
JS did great this year, but he came along slowly and down right struggled at times. He needed the reps.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:14 pm to FearlessFreep
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That's a valid point, but I'm still concerned that whomever is #2 going into 2018 won't get much of a chance to run the whole offense, based on Gustav's history (of course, he hasn't had the luxury of having a returning starter very often).
We also rarely have blown teams out until last season. I believe if we have big wins again this next season you'll see more back ups playing. Similar to how Steele used more this year than last.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:49 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Off topic and I don't know how many programs do this but I know Pete Carroll did at USC, I keep reading Gus doesn't run 1s vs 1s in camp. Gotta do this sometimes, right?
On topic, we don't blow too many people out because we would sit on leads and just play to get the game over with once we had a good lead secured. It's what Gus does, or maybe after the LSU game it's permanent that he keeps the foot down and we can get the backup some throwing reps.
He watched the Natty and knew who were freshmen. Maybe he took a few notes.
On topic, we don't blow too many people out because we would sit on leads and just play to get the game over with once we had a good lead secured. It's what Gus does, or maybe after the LSU game it's permanent that he keeps the foot down and we can get the backup some throwing reps.
He watched the Natty and knew who were freshmen. Maybe he took a few notes.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:58 pm to SamGinn Cam
Gus runs 1vs1 in mainly situational stuff, not so much in the full blown scrimmages (though he has done that more). Yes though, he probably runs 1vs1 less than a majority of coaches I would guess
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