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re: Cohen betting his career on Aug 1
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:26 am to loganromp
Posted on 7/9/25 at 7:26 am to loganromp
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it's a lot harder to flip 15+ players when you only have 7 guys in your class.
Auburn was planning on signing only 17-18 players max in this class anyway. There’s more freshman and sophomores on the roster than seniors and juniors.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:25 pm to loganromp
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It doesn't (as seen by Na'eem Offord last season) but at the same time it's a lot harder to flip 15+ players when you only have 7 guys in your class. We would much rather be in the situation where other teams are trying to flip our players and all we have to do is match offers.
This right here highlights why I think it was a terrible strategy.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:35 pm to wareaglepete
Its not going to be happening August1st, and there will be more flips than ever come this fall. Agents have become more savvy, or I should say, players have become more savvy with the agents they chose.
When you want hard numbers, in writing, you will see the flips.
A lot of the players we were in the running for shouldnt be considered flips, they would have committed to us had we shown them the number, they just want something to bargain with down the stretch.
When you want hard numbers, in writing, you will see the flips.
A lot of the players we were in the running for shouldnt be considered flips, they would have committed to us had we shown them the number, they just want something to bargain with down the stretch.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 12:46 pm to trinidadtiger
Dangerous game when all other teams except us are doing the opposite.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:38 pm to wareaglepete
For the sake of discussion, others are also making the same claims we are, so we are not alone in our position. Not saying I agree with what we are doing and have said it’s a very dangerous game to be playing, but it does seem to be a legit claim we’ve made and not just lip service in response to recruiting losses.
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:00 pm to loganromp
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And also Cohen has said these schools will be "heavily punished" if they break the cap space rules. I'm sure I missed some things but long story short we are trying to play it conservatively and within the rules
Seems like alot of gray area.
Don’t ask for permission, ask for forgiveness later on…
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:04 pm to Rhino5
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Don’t ask for permission, ask for forgiveness later on…
To be fair, we get punished for other team's transgressions, so I probably won't fault them too much for being overly cautious
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:18 pm to Rhino5
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Don’t ask for permission, ask for forgiveness later on
Sounds like a good idea, but we all know Bama & UGA will end up getting a slap on the wrist or have their coach suspended for a game against Ball State. Where as if we did it we would probably get a 10 year post season probation & a $20 million fine.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:25 pm to loganromp
People keep arguing Cohen will end up a hero or failure, but my concern is that it'll be for naught regardless
If Cohen is right, I think the likely result is that we get to toot our horn about having been conservative, don't get "in trouble" but don't really reap much benefit from whatever "trouble" befalls those who were more ambitious.
I think those programs will pivot/adjust, and after a bit of scrambling will likely still end up considerably ahead of us for their efforts.
We'll get to wear the white hat, but I don't think there is any real payoff for us.
If Cohen is right, I think the likely result is that we get to toot our horn about having been conservative, don't get "in trouble" but don't really reap much benefit from whatever "trouble" befalls those who were more ambitious.
I think those programs will pivot/adjust, and after a bit of scrambling will likely still end up considerably ahead of us for their efforts.
We'll get to wear the white hat, but I don't think there is any real payoff for us.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:28 pm to Pettifogger
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We'll get to wear the white hat, but I don't think there is any real payoff for us.
We’ll see. I think several kids went elsewhere strictly for the money even though they liked Auburn better. If the money all the sudden becomes even, why wouldn’t they flip?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:33 pm to jvilletiger25
Again, this is all a hypothetical on how everything plays out, but let's say we are correct in our interpretation and are actually handling things correctly. I think a recruiting pitch, especially to parents, that hey we were upfront and honest with you about our offer and aren't going to lie to you about what can be offered just to get a commitment out of you will probably be a pretty loud argument thats hard to ignore.
Absolutely the other schools are going to say "oh we just misunderstood things", etc, but we are already making that argument and calling it out as bullshite. Now, as I said in another thread, could all blow up in our face too, but IF we are right, thats a pretty strong recruiting pitch to be made.
Absolutely the other schools are going to say "oh we just misunderstood things", etc, but we are already making that argument and calling it out as bullshite. Now, as I said in another thread, could all blow up in our face too, but IF we are right, thats a pretty strong recruiting pitch to be made.
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:42 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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IF we are right, thats a pretty strong recruiting pitch to be made.
The only recruiting pitch these kids care about now is money.
If we don’t take a risk, then the outcome could all but cripple this program for a very long time.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:46 pm to Rhino5
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The only recruiting pitch these kids care about now is money.
Right. Don't you think the argument that we aren't going to lie about and try and manipulate your money is going to hold some pretty good weight? We still have competitive offers, obviously.
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If we don’t take a risk, then the outcome could all but cripple this program for a very long time.
I mean what risk are we talking about here? It is sounding like you are thinking we are just not going to be making competitive NIL offers at all. Technically speaking, there is less risk probably than normal, because all most of these kids care about is money. Losing a bunch of recruits sucks and will make how we close the season out more difficult, but let's not act like if we are wrong here, we aren't going to be able to adjust our offers accordingly.
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:57 pm to Pettifogger
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We'll get to wear the white hat, but I don't think there is any real payoff for us
First year as an Auburn fan?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:22 pm to loganromp
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From my understanding, and I could be wrong, August 1st is the first time the salary cap & NIL offers will be enforced and schools can directly pay players through their "cap" of 20.5 million per school. The reason we are so far down in recruiting at the moment is because we are not directly telling any of the athletes how much they can make outside of the salary cap through NIL at Auburn. From my understanding, some schools are telling the players that we will give you $X,XXX against our cap amount, and can guarantee/help you find an NIL deal for $X,XXX. I believe with the new regulations if schools were to facilitate any NIL deals outside of the amount they can legally give against the $20.5 million cap it would also count against the cap space. And also Cohen has said these schools will be "heavily punished" if they break the cap space rules. I'm sure I missed some things but long story short we are trying to play it conservatively and within the rules. With Cohen having a background in law he's not one to take any unnecessary risks without knowing the outcome.
The transfer portal BS put college football on life support.
This NIL crap has pulled the plug on it.
I used to be chomping at the bit for some CFB by this time in the summer, but the last couple of years I have just about lost interest in it.
It is nothing more than NFL minor leauges now.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:58 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Sounds like our interpretation has been correct from the look of this.
Now, question still begs will that make any difference at all or will it easily be able to be gotten around? Who knows.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:42 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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will it easily be able to be gotten around?
Yes
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:20 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Sounds like our interpretation has been correct from the look of this.
I’m sure it is but everyone else is ignoring it and operating as usual. In the end, they’ll say mea culpa, all will be forgiven and we’ll be eight steps behind. But at least we’ll have our virtue.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:24 pm to tgrmeat
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I’m sure it is but everyone else is ignoring it and operating as usual. In the end, they’ll say mea culpa, all will be forgiven and we’ll be eight steps behind. But at least we’ll have our virtue.
Not really.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:00 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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“People are lying & promising fake things.”
This is shocking
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