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Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 8:46 pm to
Somewhat off topic, but I’d hate to see how the world today would react to something as deadly as smallpox was back in the 18th century.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29626 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:02 pm to
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serious question.........how is being "cooped up in a room", with other people who have been "cooped up in the same room", the perfect environment for getting the flu?

Go on a cruise and let us know.




two very different things.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:07 pm to
It would be a shite show of epic proportions.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:08 pm to
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Somewhat off topic, but I’d hate to see how the world today would react to something as deadly as smallpox was back in the 18th century.
From: (wiki) Population history of Indigenous peoples of the Americas

Per Noble David Cook in 'Born To Die'

quote:

The scope of the epidemics over the years was tremendous, killing millions of people—possibly in excess of 90% of the population in the hardest-hit areas—and creating one of "the greatest human catastrophe in history, far exceeding even the disaster of the Black Death of medieval Europe", which had killed up to one-third of the people in Europe and Asia between 1347 and 1351.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29626 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 9:55 pm to
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but I’d hate to see how the world today would react to something as deadly as smallpox was back in the 18th century.



we have had things pop up that could have been just as deadly. covid for one. Aids for another. Medicine has just come a long way since then.


ETA In 1910 the male life expectancy was 48 and 51 for women.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:11 pm
Posted by BranTheHuman2
Los Angeles
Member since Jun 2019
616 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:09 am to
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ETA In 1910 the male life expectancy was 48 and 51 for women.


Yep. Penicillin wasn't even discovered until the late 1920s.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 6:03 am to
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Studies show



This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 6:10 am
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34738 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:42 am to
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NewbornBabyPolarBear


I'm happy to take you at your word but any guesses as to why this is happening? It's been kind of put out there that Delta is more contagious but less serious. If that were true and 94% of admissions are unvaccinated, how did things operate at all last summer when 0% of people were vaccinated?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Somewhat off topic, but I’d hate to see how the world today would react to something as deadly as smallpox was back in the 18th century.





Reason seems to have been suspended on both sides of this issue for the last year and a half and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39580 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:15 am to
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we have had things pop up that could have been just as deadly. covid for one. Aids for another. Medicine has just come a long way since then.


I think you’re kind of missing the point.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29626 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:55 am to
quote:

but I’d hate to see how the world today would react to something as deadly as smallpox was back in the 18th century.



quote:

I think you’re kind of missing the point.




I think you missed the point.

We have seen exactly how people would react. Most were petrified of Aids. Many, like yourself, are cavalier about covid.

Who knows how deadly each would be without the advancement in medicine?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39580 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:15 am to
Rig, correct me if i'm wrong, but he is asking how would the world react if something came along that our medical expertise was able to do as much as theirs was back in the 1800's against smallpox. So, something that is beyond our ability to fight it, and it kills that many people.

He isn't saying we haven't seen a disease that could kill as many as smallpox if it was around in the 1800's.

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Many, like yourself, are cavalier about covid.


Excuse me? Did someone wake up on the condescending side of the bed this morning?
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49940 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:18 am to
There has always been heavy pushback by people that don’t want to accept the jab. Even during the deadly pandemics. In 1908 or 1906 people were even fined for not getting jabbed. There are court cases and plenty of legal basis from previous pandemics pondering the issue of individual liberty vs greater good. More often than not, if the government can prove the jab is the most effective pandemic response while also the least invasive alternative to individual liberty the guvmint is going to win.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:32 pm to
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There has always been heavy pushback by people that don’t want to accept the jab.


Ignorance is always an option. The current choice to not vaccinate might be correct but every metric available says otherwise so I doubt it.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34738 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:02 pm to
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The current choice to not vaccinate might be correct but every metric available says otherwise so I doubt it.



For a young healthy person, name one metric that favors the vaccine?
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13643 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:11 pm to
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For a young healthy person, name one metric that favors the vaccine?


I've got two:

1) not feeling like shite for a week.
2) not having to quarantine away from the team.
3) less chance of transmission to others.

I added one.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39580 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 10:21 pm to
Interesting. I didn’t know people with the vaccine didn’t have to quarantine or feel like shite with Covid.

Also, #3 is wrong.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
2251 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:05 am to
Honestly just open everything up. If you haven't gotten the vaccine by now and get sick, tough shite
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 3:06 am
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30790 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:24 am to
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Honestly just open everything up. If you haven't gotten the vaccine by now and get sick, tough shite


Agree 100%.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34738 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:27 am to
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not feeling like shite for a week.


Everyone's got their anecdotal evidence but I know more people who got sick from the vaccine than from COVID.

quote:

not having to quarantine away from the team.


I'm not talking about football and following made up protocols with no reason or logical backing.

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less chance of transmission to others.


You sure about that?
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