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re: Cardale Jones said Recruits are now asking for 5-15K plus, just to visit a school.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:22 am to auburnnyc94
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:22 am to auburnnyc94
quote:NIL is new and will take time to shake out. The ROI isn’t going to justify the investments we are seeing right now. It will eventually settle out where the NIL money is tied to some return on investment. Right now it is mostly based on the hype of a new thing and the fear of being left behind. JMO
unsustainable
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 10:24 am
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:23 am to TiggerWoods
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Can they just form a minor league pro system and let college athletics go back to students and actual amateurs? Yes, the product won't be as good but this shite is ridiculous
Why? When the NFL can use the taxpayer subsidized college football system for their minor leagues?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:35 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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bit dramatic so early in the morning.
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I see NIL as the beginning of the end to College football
Alright
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:13 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
This isn’t that different than the Pre-NIL days, but probably more widespread of course now that it’s legal and in the open.
Guys got paid to visit before, one way or the other.
Guys got paid to visit before, one way or the other.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:20 am to lowspark12
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I see NIL as the beginning of the end to College football
That's not done out of drama sir. That is an opinion based on what is already happening, and hope I'm wrong. If NIL and the portal not managed better than it already is, then it is unsustainable. Don't know what that means in years or timeframe, but it will not be the same college football we have enjoyed over these many decades, it's already changed in just the last 5 years.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:23 am to WDE24
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NIL is new and will take time to shake out. The ROI isn’t going to justify the investments we are seeing right now. It will eventually settle out where the NIL money is tied to some return on investment. Right now it is mostly based on the hype of a new thing and the fear of being left behind. JMO
Right, if it is not reformed it will be unsustainable. It's obvious colleges are seeing this, and hopefully viable options can be found, but once the floodgates were open, everybody is looking for theirs rightfully so or not.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:36 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
The market is not going to continue to bear this for long in my opinion. It will correct itself.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:38 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I’ve just kinda come to terms with the fact the sport we grew up watching and loved is gone… and that the system as it used to be was probably not the best for the players.
There needs to be some regulation… but the NCAA member schools are to blame for the lack of framework. The school’s currently bitching about no rules were members of an organization (ncaa) that didn’t allow those rules.
ETA: I think the portal is doing more to destroy the sport’s identity than NIL
There needs to be some regulation… but the NCAA member schools are to blame for the lack of framework. The school’s currently bitching about no rules were members of an organization (ncaa) that didn’t allow those rules.
ETA: I think the portal is doing more to destroy the sport’s identity than NIL
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:41 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:44 am to lowspark12
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I’ve just kinda come to terms with the fact the sport we grew up watching and loved is gone… and that the system as it used to be was probably not the best for the players.
In the end we are in agreement
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ETA: I think the portal is doing more to destroy the sport’s identity than NIL
Which I touched on and also agree.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:47 am to tgrmeat
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It will correct itself.
Disagree, this will take some reform that won't be agreeable to many after the introduction of NIL with basically no parameters or guidelines. Just the guidelines already on the books that does a poor job addressing the issues being seen.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:53 am to Cocotheape
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Guys got paid to visit before, one way or the other.
I had hoped though, that at least NIL would limit the influence of the guys like "Peaches". If I am reading the OP correctly, that is still not the case.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:09 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:I agree it’s unsustainable. Reform may be needed, but even if there is no reform, I think the market will adjust and NIL will look much different in 5 years.
Right, if it is not reformed it will be unsustainable
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:19 pm to WDE24
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NIL is new and will take time to shake out. The ROI isn’t going to justify the investments we are seeing right now. It will eventually settle out where the NIL money is tied to some return on investment. Right now it is mostly based on the hype of a new thing and the fear of being left behind. JMO
I'm not sure. With some of the large donors, maybe, but with the OTV donors its a low expense for what a ton of them are passionate about.
I'm sure that for large boosters, etc. they have other hobbies and/or passions they spend a ton of money on. This could just be another.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:28 pm to WDE24
Agree, no outside correction you can bet NIL will look different in 5 years, and more likely within 5 years.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:09 pm to higgs_boson
Until the NCAA (or whatever governing body) has some official agent program, Peaches is living well
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:15 pm to Cocotheape
I think something that is neglected as a factor in all this is the public’s realization of how important recruiting is over the last 10-15 years.
Good coaches always knew this, but now* a good recruiting class doesn’t just mean better athletes on the field in a season or two, it can save your job as soon as those guys are committed. We’ve seen plenty of times where a coach is on the hot seat but gets the benefit of the doubt because he has a great class coming in.
As a result, recruiting just for recruiting’s sake has value and coaches will do what it takes to get their own huge huge slice of the pie (fully guaranteed with a monster buyout, of course).
*perhaps this shifts though with the huge changes coming from the portal
Good coaches always knew this, but now* a good recruiting class doesn’t just mean better athletes on the field in a season or two, it can save your job as soon as those guys are committed. We’ve seen plenty of times where a coach is on the hot seat but gets the benefit of the doubt because he has a great class coming in.
As a result, recruiting just for recruiting’s sake has value and coaches will do what it takes to get their own huge huge slice of the pie (fully guaranteed with a monster buyout, of course).
*perhaps this shifts though with the huge changes coming from the portal
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:45 pm to Johnnycrane
Military Academy football is the last vestige of true college football.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:21 am to Pauldingtiger
The USFL and XFL have quietly entered the conversation...
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:40 am to Pauldingtiger
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Military Academy football is the last vestige of true college football.
They are not exempt either. I would say the true football is still at DII & DIII. May not be good football but at least you can tailgate still and it is affordable to take a family to.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:45 am to Pauldingtiger
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Military Academy football is the last vestige of true college football.
I’d agree
Service academy players are not allowed to enter into NIL because they are employees and paid by their respective academy.
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