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Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:20 pm to jvilletiger25
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Urban has pretty much owned Saban on the field.
Eh what? Aren't they 2-2 against each other? When Meyer first went to FL the SEC overall was down and the East was way down.
When he went to the B10 that conference was down.
If he were to jump back into coaching I'd imagine him at someplace like Miami, FSU, USC (though I know they have a good coach now)... a blue chip program in a conference that is currently down with great access to talent.
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Give me mullen
He was awesome at MSU but flooped at FL. That's a weird example where a guy who seemingly has a good system and success in the SEC, gets to a blue chip in the SEC and can't make it happen. I'm sure FL thought he was going to be a slam dunk.
We need to make Rhule, Stoops, Aranda, Kiffin, and Urban all say no then go from there.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:23 pm to BigBlueAU
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I just looked at Baylor's recruiting during the time he was HC and he only finished under 30th in recruiting one year. What about Rhule would make anyone think his recruiting would be better than Harsin? I don't see Rhule being anywhere close to an answer for us.
Rhule is a likable guy and good coach. He took Baylor from 1-11 after the rape scandal, and had them in the Sugar Bowl 3 seasons later. That’s impressive.
Give him Auburn’s recruiting resources, and I’m sure he could right this ship quickly.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:26 pm to ALhunter
I respect the job he did while dealing with the issues at Baylor with all that controversy after Briles. But it's Texas! One of the most talent rich states in the country. Plus the big instate school had been down for years at that time. We need someone to light the recruiting world on fire. I dont think he's it.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:27 pm to jvilletiger25
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Urban has pretty much owned Saban on the field.
They're 2-2 head to head, and Urban famously nearly gave up coaching after losing to him in the 2009 SEC Title Game
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Riley took over a program that was rolling, and he was the OC that was putting up huge numbers passing.
His first year as OC in 2015, Auburn finished higher in passing yards per game that OU. And that's with us starting Jeremy Johnson for most of the season.
Next year he got Baker who transferred in, and then Kyler and Jalen after that.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:28 pm to ALhunter
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I'm sure FL thought he was going to be a slam dunk.
He didn't recruit, and that was his downfall at UF
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:51 pm to greygoose
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Did you forget that he played professionally and he signed the #1 DB in the nation??
I didn’t forget and I don’t care. Playing in the league and buying one player does not make you a good coach.
I swear some of you would make 100 times more snap judgements than the people you criticize for doing so. LOL
Insanity.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:55 pm to BigBlueAU
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But it's Texas! One of the most talent rich states in the country.
Do you need to be reminded of Kevin Steele's record at Baylor?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:02 pm to Lee County Tiger
Has T-Will been mentioned yet? Some of these other names y’all are tossing around, might as well get him in there. 
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:10 pm to LanierSpots
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I didn’t forget and I don’t care. Playing in the league and buying one player does not make you a good coach.
I swear some of you would make 100 times more snap judgements than the people you criticize for doing so. LOL
Insanity.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:18 pm to Lee County Tiger
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Do you need to be reminded of Kevin Steele's record at Baylor?
I'm not questioning his record at Baylor. Just his ability to recruit at Auburn against our two biggest rivals that are on historic runs on and off the field.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:18 pm to ALhunter
quote:He could have gone to Notre Dame from Utah in 2005, and chose UF instead, despite the fact that the SEC had 4 teams in the top 16 in 2004, and both of his instate OOC rivals were in the top 15 as well.
I can't imagine Urban coming here... having to play Bama and GA every year? If he goes to a program he'll want to go somewhere the competition isn't quite that brutal.
Then he took over a tOSU team that was coming off its first losing season since 1988, at a time when there were 3 B1G teams (including annual rivals Michigan& Wisky) in the top 12. Plus the Buckeyes were on NCAA probation.
Then he took over a 1-15 Jacksonville team in the same division as two 11-5 playoff qualifiers in Tennessee & Indianapolis.
Are you seriously suggesting he has a history of 'going somewhere the competition isn't quite that brutal'?
I'm not saying we have a ghost of a chance of hiring him at AU (and even if we did, would our braintrust actually pursue him), but to say he wouldn't come here because he was scared of competing with Bama and UGa is pretty dubious.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:21 pm to FearlessFreep
Urban is a walking, talking scandal about to happen. Groping girls in bars, and turning a blind eye to his assistants antics. Don't forget the way he left FL.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:36 pm to FearlessFreep
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to say he wouldn't come here because he was scared of competing with Bama and UGa is pretty dubious.
Yeah, I think it’d be quite the opposite. Kirby and Saban would shite themselves actually not being able to negatively recruit against Auburn because of the mediocre head coach for a change.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:45 pm to BigBlueAU
All 3 make sense. They still ain’t coming
DeioNoRbust
DeioNoRbust
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:52 pm to greygoose
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walking, talking scandal about to happen.
and don't forget the scandal with the Strength Coach where he made the kid keep going up in wights until his quad rolled up? Happened at Ohio State
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:11 pm to FearlessFreep
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He could have gone to Notre Dame from Utah in 2005, and chose UF instead, despite the fact that the SEC had 4 teams in the top 16 in 2004, and both of his instate OOC rivals were in the top 15 as well.
Notre Dame hadn't been a powerhouse in the last 10 years when he was up for that job. Florida, even under Zook, had remained relevant in the SEC East, and Zook had created a cache of talent there compared to ND, along with the fact that Florida has a ton of talent basically chilling in Urbs backyard.
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Then he took over a tOSU team that was coming off its first losing season since 1988, at a time when there were 3 B1G teams (including annual rivals Michigan& Wisky) in the top 12. Plus the Buckeyes were on NCAA probation.
You mean an Ohio State team that went 12-1 in 2010, then lost their coach in May and named an interim coach (anyone remember who that interim coach was?) who led them to a 6-6 record, before losing to UF in their bowl game? Calling 6-7 a "losing record" is being very generous since it took the bowl game loss. Along with that, it's Ohio State. Recruiting there really isn't a huge problem, especially off of the run they had been on.
And their probation was a 1 year bowl ban. No lost scholarships as far as I can tell. And they already had Braxton Miller on campus when he was hired.
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Then he took over a 1-15 Jacksonville team in the same division as two 11-5 playoff qualifiers in Tennessee & Indianapolis.
To be fair, I don't think Urban thought that job would be as difficult as it was. He famously told Vic Fangio after he played the Broncos "it's like playing Bama every week" talking about coaching in the NFL. That quote, to me, speaks like he thought he was going to come into the year with his all star QB again, and just wreck shop.
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Are you seriously suggesting he has a history of 'going somewhere the competition isn't quite that brutal'?
I just want to say I'm not suggesting that. I am suggesting though that he has a history of going places where the circumstances, in his eyes at least, line up for him to take advantage of massive opportunities.
And Auburn is not a place where I think he can do that at this time.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:14 pm to Lee County Tiger
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Why does it need to be a splash? I'd rather good fit over flashy name.
The last 3 hires were not a splash
Chizik
Malzahn
Harsin
How did that work? We did get a natty out of it but that was more players than coaching. The definition of an idiot is trying the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:21 pm to ALhunter
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He's not my #1 overall but he's up there for the "realistic" hires IMO.
Wasn't he coaching High School in 2020? That's pretty quick from a canoe to a carrier in 2 years.
Auburn will never hire Urban or Mullen, thankfully. There are still some Auburn folks with memories longer than a goldfish. Urban & Mullen did us dirty. Neither will step foot on the AU sideline as the HC.
ETA- Freeze is Malzahn 2.0 with some bizarre personality traits and a hooker problem.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:34 pm to Fear The Thumb
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Chizik
5-19 tainted his name. But, prior to that he was considered one of, if not the, best DCs in Football. Why he chose to go to Iowa State, I have no idea. But without that tenure on his resume, I'm sure that hire would've been looked at a lot more fondly at the time of hire.
Remember, the named candidates at the time were Chizik, Turner Gill, Houston Nutt, and Pat Nix.
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Malzahn
See above, except with a 9-3 record and a Sun Beast conference title as a HC. Gus was going to end up somewhere in the SEC within 2 years of being at Arky State.
He was very similar in profile to Napier, who's now at UF.
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Harsin
It was a name out of the blue. Literally, on no one's real radar except for ADAG. But, Boise was a name and what most people think of when they think of G5 Power Teams. If anything, that was a splash name.
I realize that last year fricked everything up, with 3 coaches from BRANDS leaving to go coach at other BRANDS, but I don't think that's going to be the norm going forward.
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The definition of an idiot is trying the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.
We hired 3 HCs in a row who were HCs at other schools. One of them had zero ties to Auburn, with the other two being coordinators for the coach they replaced.
My definition of Fit over Splash is: Find a good coordinator who's got a solid idea of what he wants to do with his football program, and give him the keys.
That's just one man's opinion.
But I feel like every time we get hyped up about "swinging for the fences", we inevitably fail and end up with a coach that has some ties to the university, or just looked really good in a speedo in a hot tub. (And I say that as a person who was a fan of the Harsin hire).
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