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re: Bo QBR is awful. Is that mostly on Bo or Gus?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:38 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:38 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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RockyMtnTigerWDE
At this point, I'm not sure I could play worse!
I can throw the ball into the dirt with the best of them!
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:14 pm to greygoose
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How can you possibly say that?
Because the coaching staff has the other guy out there.
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How many passes has Gatewood thrown this year?
He’s currently 5 for 7.
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Are you trusting the judgement of the guy who comes up with whirlybird plays, and two pulling guards at the goal line for a run up the middle against a goal line, stacked defense?
I’m taking his opinion over yours, yes.
I never thought Nix should be the starter, but whoever gives us the best chance to win should play. Nix has looked good at times, but terrible at others. He had 35 pass attempts on the road at LSU versus the number one team in the nation. I’m not sure you put a FR in that position. I know I wouldn’t have. IMO, we need to run more to protect our young QBs. In my mind, that means more read option for Bo or Gatewood.
On those two possessions inside our own 5, if Bo keeps on any of those read options, we get a first down easily. Not sure why he wasn’t keeping it, but I’m not sure that he ever did that day.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:21 pm to TailbackU
To answer this question, you gotta look at the big picture.
Stidham and nix were both highly rated and touted before they got on campus.
Both showed basically the same issues: accuracy issues, inconsistency in the road, and poise under pressure.
The only two quarterbacks under malzahn as a hc or oc at Auburn to do reasonably well were Newton and Marshall. Both had wheels and could outrun the defense.
I don't think malzahn schemes/coaches the OL well to protect the QB. I've only seen good protection in a few games, and those instances usually relied on a FB blowing someone up on a block.
That said, nix has some inherent accuracy issues. All of Gus' QBs have except one he didn't develop: Newton. I don't think he will get better. I don't think anyone would.
Stidham and nix were both highly rated and touted before they got on campus.
Both showed basically the same issues: accuracy issues, inconsistency in the road, and poise under pressure.
The only two quarterbacks under malzahn as a hc or oc at Auburn to do reasonably well were Newton and Marshall. Both had wheels and could outrun the defense.
I don't think malzahn schemes/coaches the OL well to protect the QB. I've only seen good protection in a few games, and those instances usually relied on a FB blowing someone up on a block.
That said, nix has some inherent accuracy issues. All of Gus' QBs have except one he didn't develop: Newton. I don't think he will get better. I don't think anyone would.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:26 pm to Tiguar
Hard to debate that take. At least I am not going to delve into trying.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:31 pm to TailbackU
My girlfriend, who knows nothing about football, commented about our offense during the LSU game "It's like he (Gus) is expecting a flight attendant to land the plane blindfolded"
I'd say that's 75-85% on Gus, the rest on Nix.
I'd say that's 75-85% on Gus, the rest on Nix.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:33 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Nix has looked good at times, but terrible at others.
Got Damn!
One of those is MUCH greater than the other.
I'm starting to suspect you are a troll, level 100!
There is no way, any rational human being could believe what you just wrote.
Keep up the great work, you almost had me.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:39 pm to Tiguar
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Tiguar
Newton broke 50 year old rookie passing records in the NFL.
Stidham looked like a different guy this NFL preseason.
So, in a nutshell, you are saying Gus is going to frick up whoever he starts? That I can believe based on his track record.
How the PTB, bring him back tomorrow is beyond me, much less, next year.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:43 pm to vandelay industries
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My girlfriend
Your Gf (Who knows nothing about football) sounds smarter than the guy getting paid millions to lose games and ruin promising athletes.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:44 pm to greygoose
quote:Not at all. Nix won the job straight up. He hasnt improved and shits the bed against on the road. and at this point. you have to give Gatewood a shot for an entire half against Ole Miss
I'm thinking Gus has his mind made up before Nix ever strapped on pads for Auburn. Gatewood never had a chance, and it's apparent Gus isn't about to give him one now.
You would think that Pat, who was the OC at Miami back in the day, would step in to protect his son. How many top recruited 5* QBs does Gus have to retire to the trash bin before people wise up? Frazier, Johnson, almost ruined Stidham, and now Nix.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:59 pm to ChexMix
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ChexMix
What makes you think that?
In your football viewing life, have you ever seen QB play so bad that the coach didn't pull him? 3 ints in the FLA game, and more in the LSU game if he could throw the ball anywhere near his intended receiver.
Then you have Gus' comment in the presser about not even considering benching Nix. I think Nix must have naked pics of Gus screwing some scattered, covered, and smothered at the Waffle House!
There is no plausible reason why Gatewood hasn't seen meaningful snaps. If things don't change really soon, losing games will be the smallest of our issues concerning Auburn football. I'm talking scorched Earth, lose the team shite that will set us back years.
The players aren't dumb and neither are the assistants that work for Gus.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:29 pm to greygoose
The fact is, the HUGE difference between us and that team across the state is, they demand excellence. We look for excuses. Fish,or cut bait! If a coach or player isn't getting it done, cut them loose! I'm so tired of the defenders of mediocrity!
I've often heard the phrase "It's hard to be an Auburn fan."
Wonder why that is? We allow mediocrity to fester and don't snip it when it rears it's ugly head. Then we bitch and moan, and ponder why we are always the "also ran". You either have a winning agenda, or you don't. That's the exact reason why we have a coach that continually says "We are going to get better.", then shits the bed in the next, big game.
It's time for a change of attitude with our core. It's time for Auburn to denounce the chicken shite attitude and that starts with leadership.
I do not like that coach across the State, but I respect the Hell outta him. He has one job to do, and nobody is doing it better. He benched his QB that took him to 2 national championship games, in order to win another. He says, "frick your feelings! I have a goal and a job to do! If you can't get it done, I'll try somebody else!" That stuff resonates with individuals who strive to be winners. Ever wonder why he dominates recruiting? There's your answer!
Meanwhile, we have a double bubble chewing, nose picking, sideline drama queen, who refuses to view what we all see as reality. It's fricking embarrassing!
RANT OVER!
I've often heard the phrase "It's hard to be an Auburn fan."
Wonder why that is? We allow mediocrity to fester and don't snip it when it rears it's ugly head. Then we bitch and moan, and ponder why we are always the "also ran". You either have a winning agenda, or you don't. That's the exact reason why we have a coach that continually says "We are going to get better.", then shits the bed in the next, big game.
It's time for a change of attitude with our core. It's time for Auburn to denounce the chicken shite attitude and that starts with leadership.
I do not like that coach across the State, but I respect the Hell outta him. He has one job to do, and nobody is doing it better. He benched his QB that took him to 2 national championship games, in order to win another. He says, "frick your feelings! I have a goal and a job to do! If you can't get it done, I'll try somebody else!" That stuff resonates with individuals who strive to be winners. Ever wonder why he dominates recruiting? There's your answer!
Meanwhile, we have a double bubble chewing, nose picking, sideline drama queen, who refuses to view what we all see as reality. It's fricking embarrassing!
RANT OVER!
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:34 pm to greygoose
Dude, wtf is up with all the diary writing posts?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:03 am to TailbackU
He’s a freshman so he’s going to make mistakes. At the same time, he’s regressing instead of improving, which is on the coaches.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:29 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Dude, wtf is up with all the diary writing posts?
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Dude, wtf is up with all the diary writing posts?
I'm sorry. I have the inability to condense my thoughts into two word sentences or an emoji. Must be a generational thing.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:37 am to greygoose
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I'm starting to suspect you are a troll, level 100!
I’m not the one shitting all over the board. That’s you bro.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:14 am to ChexMix
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you have to give Gatewood a shot for an entire half against Ole Miss
You talking JFIII vs Vandy kind of shot or an actual shot?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:24 am to greygoose
Generational? I bet you’d be surprised if you knew.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:31 am to DyeHardDylan
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At the same time, he’s regressing instead of improving, which is on the coaches.
I agree with this. But honestly, it is a team effort on multiple fronts to be THAT bad.
When the qb is struggling, receivers have to step up and catch bad passes (not something I saw much of). The OL cannot make a bad situation worse with false starts etc.
The coaches have to simplify and not put the game on him.
Again, we shall see how he does against Ole Miss and GA. I think he will look much better in those games.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:38 am to DyeHardDylan
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He’s a freshman so he’s going to make mistakes. At the same time, he’s regressing instead of improving, which is on the coaches
Yeah there are ways to protect him. I thought pulling him against Arkansas a few times settled Nix back down. I guess he’s Gus’s scapegoat this year. No sense in not putting in JG for a few series. Instead he puts in a banged up Whitlow.
But something is off if both Nix and Stidham got worse since coming to Auburn.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:47 am to Rhino5
Gus has been here for 7 years, Stidham had one good year, Nick two. It is 99% Gus, 1% Bo. Bo in a better setting would be great. Our terrible offensive game plan and offensive line are all on GUS.
This should not even be a question.
We have seen this same pattern regardless of the QB. The only constant is GUS>
This should not even be a question.
We have seen this same pattern regardless of the QB. The only constant is GUS>
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