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re: Auburn hires Arizona State OC Chip Lindsey
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:35 am to TigerPaw1
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:35 am to TigerPaw1
Does Marcello not remember that Tuberville, the architect of the modern 3-2 football game once fired Mazzone and it's taken him over a decade to get back into the SEC??
I agree on Yurchich!
I agree on Yurchich!
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Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:49 am to TigerPaw1
Another interesting point is the SEC seems to be trending air raid. Ole Miss when chest deep.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:56 am to DuncanIdaho
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Mazzone
There are other people I would rather have, but he has come a long way since his days at Auburn.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:17 am to MrAUTigers
Would love to see some of these ideas in our offense next season
That site has some great breakdowns of their offense and you can see some of the concepts Yurcich likes to use. For the Briles fans he uses some similar ideas from that offense which I think would work well for us. Mainly I love his use of RPOs. I think with a running threat like Pettway, deep threat in Kyle Davis in the slot and Stidham's arm we could have a lot of success using some of these looks
Edit: It's interesting more I read from Oklahoma State fans they are frustrated by his run scheme while we are frustrated with Malzahn's pass scheme
That site has some great breakdowns of their offense and you can see some of the concepts Yurcich likes to use. For the Briles fans he uses some similar ideas from that offense which I think would work well for us. Mainly I love his use of RPOs. I think with a running threat like Pettway, deep threat in Kyle Davis in the slot and Stidham's arm we could have a lot of success using some of these looks
Edit: It's interesting more I read from Oklahoma State fans they are frustrated by his run scheme while we are frustrated with Malzahn's pass scheme
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 8:20 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:21 am to AUCE05
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Another interesting point is the SEC seems to be trending air raid. Ole Miss when chest deep.
Which I do not understand. What has ever been won with that type of offense?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:29 am to LanierSpots
The Pats run it. But I agree. You need very high QB play, and development. The reason DT offensive is so effective in college is you don't need the QB adjusting to the D. He just reads and reacts. If we had a Brady, Manning, and 5-6 years to develop them, then I would be down.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:40 am to LanierSpots
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Which I do not understand. What has ever been won with that type of offense?
More teams are blending Air Raid passing concepts with usually some sort of zone run scheme. Obviously you need to run the ball to win championships but with the growth of RPOs you can use air raid passing concepts off of your run game
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:40 am to LanierSpots
pulled a Brannigan
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:42 am to TigerPaw1
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pulled a Brannigan
splain yourself...
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:43 am to LanierSpots
well more of a half Brannigan only a double post 
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:44 am to AUCE05
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The Pats run it. But I agree. You need very high QB play, and development. The reason DT offensive is so effective in college is you don't need the QB adjusting to the D. He just reads and reacts. If we had a Brady, Manning, and 5-6 years to develop them, then I would be down.
NFL and college are totally different. I still do not know why we are so obsessed with trying to throw the ball more. I understand having the threat and using it on play action or getting the defense on their heals but our offense with Gus at the controls revolves around running the ball 70% of the time.
Why not just concentrate on what we can do and what has worked for us. Not what others do.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:48 am to LanierSpots
I think the problem has been with everyone converting to the spread, the stock pile of available QBs has hit their bottom limit. It is a economic principle. When there is a surplus, exploit it until the competition enters the market, then move on the greener pastures.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:05 am to LanierSpots
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I understand having the threat and using it on play action or getting the defense on their heals but our offense with Gus at the controls revolves around running the ball 70% of the time.
Why not just concentrate on what we can do and what has worked for us. Not what others do.
Idk if you noticed but it's not working anymore.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:05 am to LanierSpots
That's the problem. Running the ball 70& is not winning for us. We simply don't have a good optional passing game to open the running game up to.
And the NFL is perfect for trying to get a good balance between running and passing. The great NFL teams always have a good running game and if not your going to get your franchise QB killed.
All Auburn is changing is to get a more 60-40 balance on run/pass, and at times pass more on early downs, and not when it is just a long distance down. And to bring a more diverse passing attack.
They are NOT trying to abandon Gus's strong running credentials..
And the NFL is perfect for trying to get a good balance between running and passing. The great NFL teams always have a good running game and if not your going to get your franchise QB killed.
All Auburn is changing is to get a more 60-40 balance on run/pass, and at times pass more on early downs, and not when it is just a long distance down. And to bring a more diverse passing attack.
They are NOT trying to abandon Gus's strong running credentials..
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:09 am to LanierSpots
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NFL and college are totally different. I still do not know why we are so obsessed with trying to throw the ball more. I understand having the threat and using it on play action or getting the defense on their heals but our offense with Gus at the controls revolves around running the ball 70% of the time.
I think SEC DC's have figured out Gus' O. We must be able to throw the ball better to keep teams from loading up the box on us. I have a friend who is a HS coach and huge Auburn fan. He told me that their HS passing tree is a lot more sophisticated than ours.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:20 am to LanierSpots
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I understand having the threat and using it on play action or getting the defense on their heals but our offense with Gus at the controls revolves around running the ball 70% of the time.
Running 70% of the time is too much, and what your are glossing over is the fact that this strategy has only worked for Gus when he has had the perfect personnel storm...ie: an elite running QB (Cam, Marshall) , running back(s) (Dyer, Mason, etc) , blocking FB (Prosch), and OL (Greg Robinson).
When you don't have that perfect mix of players, you are left holding your dick with an offense that can't just run over everybody yet doesn't possess the ability to actually throw the ball because the system doesn't have the players or plays to switch modes. Malzahn's pass offense has deteriorated because he has been spoiled by those seasons wherein the run game has been so unstoppable that he could just get away with a passing offense that revolves around a few deep routes and screens. The shite doesn't work when the defense can stop your run game at a decent rate.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:24 am to The_SwAUggford
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Idk if you noticed but it's not working anymore.
Its more personnel than scheme. We do not have a SEC Caliber QB
out there who can sell the run and the pass. It has nothing to do with
the defenses. Just the fact that we are not doing what we have done that
worked. We do not have the right people. Everybody could see it
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:28 am to LanierSpots
I read your post like a poem with the way it posted.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:28 am to MrAUTigers
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I think SEC DC's have figured out Gus' O.
I dont believe that. We just dont have the people in place to run it effectively. We need a QB and HB and we will pretty much be there.
I totally understand the fact we need a passing game and why. No doubt. But to try and add some kind of "Air Raid" element to what we do sounds counter productive.
Surely finding a QB to do what we need can not be any harder than revamping the offense.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:29 am to Smoke7024
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I read your post like a poem with the way it posted.
I have no idea why it looks like that.
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