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Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:23 pm to MrAUTigers
I agree with that. His downfall was all mental. I still think Gatewood has more potential overall though. Of course, he could have his struggles mentally too but we won't know about that until when/if he see's the field. Nix has potential to be better than all of them imo though.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 8:27 pm to TTsTowel
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Malik Willis is nowhere near as talented as Nick Marshall. His arm strength and downfield accuracy are also nowhere near Nick Marshall’s level.
Also remember that Malik never even played QB until his senior year of high school. He has very little real time experience at the position
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:53 pm to jt33
quote:Arm strength is overrated as most of a Qbs passes are with 20 yards of the line of scrimmage. Tebow had a weak arm, Brandon Cox had a weak arm, Aaron Murray had a weak arm, the list goes on. Give me accuracy and anticipation over distance any day
If you watch film on Sandberg though his arm just wasn't very strong. Maybe its gotten stronger over the years he was playing baseball, but I just don't think its strong enough to play against SEC defenses.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:41 pm to ChexMix
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Give me accuracy and anticipation over distance any day
In Gus' offense, throwing deep bombs effectively is a huge deal.
Marshall to Coates basically made our offense go
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:12 am to GenesChin
Three Washington players named to the AP Preseason All-America 1st & 2nd Teams:
1st Team APB - Myles Gaskin
1st Team Safety - Taylor Rapp
2nd Team CB - Byron Murphy
AU: 0. As I was saying, we might be ranked high but the west coast media has got the CFB media hyping Washington hard. Desperate for PAC-12 to make playoff, hopes riding. Wouldnt be surprised to see the line shift UW's way next week making AU an underdog.
Hope this adds to our players hunger. Bring it, bitch
1st Team APB - Myles Gaskin
1st Team Safety - Taylor Rapp
2nd Team CB - Byron Murphy
AU: 0. As I was saying, we might be ranked high but the west coast media has got the CFB media hyping Washington hard. Desperate for PAC-12 to make playoff, hopes riding. Wouldnt be surprised to see the line shift UW's way next week making AU an underdog.
Hope this adds to our players hunger. Bring it, bitch
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:48 am to SamGinn Cam
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but the west coast media
The media is dominated by the East coast
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has got the CFB media hyping Washington hard.
For good reason. They are likely to be a very good team full of returning talent, coached by a proven winner
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Desperate for PAC-12 to make playoff, hopes riding.
They made the playoffs before and return some 16+ starters from a good team
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AU: 0
Auburn didn't have a preseason all conference pick yet you think it is bias we have 0 all Americans
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:53 am to SamGinn Cam
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we might be ranked high but the west coast media has got the CFB media hyping Washington hard. Desperate for PAC-12 to make playoff, hopes riding. Wouldnt be surprised to see the line shift UW's way next week making AU an underdog.
Hope this adds to our players hunger. Bring it, bitch
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:54 am to GenesChin
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Auburn didn't have a preseason all conference pick yet you think it is bias we have 0 all Americans
And yet, by all accounts, we have 3 potential NFL 1st rounders on the team.
Huh.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:16 am to beatbammer
I have a feeling Marlon Davidson is about to go beast mode this year.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:18 am to GenesChin
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Auburn didn't have a preseason all conference pick yet you think it is bias we have 0 all Americans
I have asked the question a few times with these threads over the past month
There are a lot of people who were pissed we did not have a first team All conference player or a All American.
Who got shafted on Auburn? Who should have made it over who they picked?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:34 am to LanierSpots
Stidham and one of Brown or Russell.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:35 am to beatbammer
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And yet, by all accounts, we have 3 potential NFL 1st rounders on the team.
Huh.
Only two players are consistently named as RD1 picks, Jarrett Stidham and Derrick Brown
Brown is a victim of some elite DT talent this season
Derrick Brown is consistently drafted behind 4+ DTs in Ed Oliver (#1), Raekwon Davis (top 5), Rashan Gary (top 10), Dexter Lawrence (top 10) and Christian Wilkins (top 15)
Stidhim just is a passer in a run first offense who didn't produce at the same level Will Grier or Trace McSorley who are in pass first offense last year
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:36 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I watched a segment on ESPN yesterday saying Washington would probably be in the final 4. I hope we beat the brakes off of them!
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:46 am to GenesChin
quote:I know this but they respect west coast input on their geographic area of reporting. Not going to hunt down videos and articles I've recently read, it's a fact PAC-12 media is riding Washington and that is influencing CFB mainstream. They are getting hyped vastly more for this game than Auburn.
The media is dominated by the East coast
quote:Not disagreeing. All I'm saying is that they had a ton of talent last year as well, analysts will admit this; played @Rutgers somewhat sloppy, got dominated at Arizona State nearly all game with Browning and Gaskin ineffective and dropped that game, dropped another @ Stanford where Browning looked pedestrian and B Love ran for 3 TDs, but did play Penn State well in the bowl. Auburn lost @LSU, had our Clemson/UGA losses, so we weren't perfect either. All I'm saying is that the tone of the media as we approach gameday is shifting that Auburn isn't talented enough to beat Washington, and I can see their point with our new O-Line, unproven RBs, but I simply disagree.
For good reason. They are likely to be a very good team full of returning talent, coached by a proven winner
quote:Not sure why you're quoting this, I don't disagree that they've got a good shot.
They made the playoffs before and return some 16+ starters from a good team
quote:Show me where my bias is. I don't give a shite about preseason accolades, the point of my post was to illustrate if I was a hard-working player, I might have a chip on my shoulder reading these things -- hope the players do -- and if I start dominating in-game or beat a team with three players on an All-American 1st/2nd team, I'm going to feel pretty confident -- hope they do when we win.
Auburn didn't have a preseason all conference pick yet you think it is bias we have 0 all Americans
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:59 am to SamGinn Cam
Off-topic from Fall Camp or Game Preps but since it's slow right now (maybe good for in OP of Alabama State game):
I haven't been to AU in a few years now and won't be able to make it this year so I'm not sure how helpful this is.
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2018 Jordan-Hare Stadium/Gameday Weekend enhancements and adjustments are:
-Jordan-Hare Stadium/Gameday Weekend Smoking inside Jordan-Hare will not be permitted. Auburn University became a no-smoking campus in 2013 and all other SEC schools have a no-smoking policy inside its stadium.
-The Home Plate Tailgate, located in the Plainsman Park parking lot will return in 2018. This season, admission is free.
-The SEC’s Clear Bag Policy is in effect again this season. For fans that make it to the stadium area with an unauthorized bag, a bag check location will be available at Gate 0, Plainsman Park and Auburn Arena. Fans will be charged $5 to check an unauthorized bag.
-Renovations to the stadium during the off-season have brought new gate entries for some patrons. Broadway Club members will enter at Gate 14, while Tiger Walk Club members may enter at the new southwest end zone entrance on Donahue Drive.
-Gate 5 and Gate 18 remain the designated stroller and medical bag entries for patrons.
-The BBVA Compass Locker Room Tours will take place on home game Fridays from 4-6 p.m. CT. The tours will give a behind the scenes look at the new Harbert Family Recruiting Center.
-Fans are encouraged to limit their use of glass on campus. The use of plastic and aluminum is encouraged to assist with Auburn’s recycling efforts.
Concessions and Merchandise
-In an effort to expedite the customer transaction process, Auburn’s new food concessionaire, Aramark, has implemented a new point of sales system in all concession stands with credit/debit card machines at all locations.
-Concessions will continue to offer a $2 bottle of 20 oz. water as well as a wide range of food and beverage options.
-A new retail merchandiser, Dyehard Fan Supply, will offer a full line of Auburn merchandise in and around Jordan-Hare Stadium as well as online at www.auteamshop.com.
Parking and Traffic
-Auburn has entered a new partnership with the Waze app with real-time street closures and information. Waze is the world's largest community-based traffic and navigation app. Auburn fans will be able to join other drivers in the Auburn area who share real-time traffic and road info, saving time on their drive to Auburn.
-Limited season and single-game parking passes are available for purchase at parkingpanda.com.
-Wire Road between I-85 Exits 42 and 50 is closed for the 2018 season. Fans traveling on I-85 to Auburn from Montgomery should use Exit 50 or 51.
-The sidewalks on College Street in front of the Auburn University Hotel will be closed due to construction of the new hotel parking deck.
-Sidewalks and curbs on Thach Avenue south of Samford Hall will be closed due to road construction changes. The Ross Square parking lot remains free and open to the public.
-Parking behind Corley Hall in the Mell Street Corridor is now marked as a permit lot. Parking lots on AG Hill and street spaces on Mell Street remain free and open to the public.
I haven't been to AU in a few years now and won't be able to make it this year so I'm not sure how helpful this is.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:58 pm to SamGinn Cam
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it's a fact PAC-12 media is riding Washington and that is influencing CFB mainstream.
Are you suggesting that Washington isn't deserving of the hype or something? If anything, UW at #6 is probably underrating them
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All I'm saying is that the tone of the media as we approach gameday is shifting that Auburn isn't talented enough to beat Washington,
Not sure what this has to do with hyping a deserving Washington instead of lack of respect for Auburn
Not sure what lack of respect you're seeing considered we are the #9 vs #6 and Vegas has us as a favorite, ESPN predictor is effectively a coin toss and most "experts" are split
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@Rutgers somewhat sloppy
Won 30-14 on opening week road trip far side of the country. Not sure why this is brought up as an argument against UW, even if sloppy, most teams are opening week
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at Arizona State
UW lost their All Pac12 Left Tackle in the first quarter and it showed on offense, giving up as many sacks against ASU as the 6 previous games
Still, UW lost 13-7 after missing 2 FGs inside the 30
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@ Stanford
8 pt loss on the road against a top 20 team. That Stanford team easily could have been finished top 10 too
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:59 pm to GenesChin
quote:I think we're closely matched teams and it could go either way. Top-10 hype is justified but they're not going to be world beaters IMO like many are writing. My opinion. We beat them and they lose @ Utah, a team they beat in the final minute last year, PAC-12 playoff chances drop big-time. I lived / will be living back out west coast so I scan a lot of that media. UW is being propped up to near-Bama level and that beating Auburn is almost expected. I'm not surprised, they've got to get clicks and Washington can make the playoffs. Some of the worldbeater hype is beginning to bleed over into mainstream and I disagree with it. I think Stidham will be better than Browning, even with their secondary; our running back rotation will surprise many; I think our OL performs average but good enough and that our special teams takes a big step forward; Gaskin gets yards but I think our defense dominates them. We'll see how it turns out -- they could beat Auburn by 2 TDs and I look like a moron. I don't know, just my opinion.
Are you suggesting that Washington isn't deserving of the hype or something? If anything, UW at #6 is probably underrating them
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Not sure what this has to do with hyping a deserving Washington instead of lack of respect for Auburn Not sure what lack of respect you're seeing considered we are the #9 vs #6 and Vegas has us as a favorite, ESPN predictor is effectively a coin toss and most "experts" are split
I'm reading outside of the usual experts, local media sports writers because I think they generally do a better, quality job and go into deeper depth. But that's where you're seeing more and more pundits make their picks/reasons why as the game is getting closer. Many don't think Auburn's #9 rank is going to hold up and that Washington has the clear edge. I think that Vegas line creeps towards UW next week when the money starts coming in.
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Won 30-14 on opening week road trip far side of the country. Not sure why this is brought up as an argument against UW, even if sloppy, most teams are opening week
Because Rutgers finished 4-8 and other teams of that tier dominated them. UW was not good in the first half and looked meh the second half. After last year's preseason hype, they labeled it sloppy. I'm with you on the opening game struggles, Auburn does the same.
If Auburn had lost @ASU and @unranked(at the time of the game and were in control all of the 4th quarter)Stanford last season, we would not be getting hyped for shite. Though out of their hands, their schedule last year was shite too, and if it weren't for their bowl performance versus new-old darling Penn State, people wouldn't be talking about them much.
Not sure why you're going for the kill here after I posted about UW's All-Americans and us having none anywhere motivates the team, I think we're mostly in agreement, but I think Washington is a great team and they have talent. Maybe I am perceiving it wrong but feel the media is starting to paint the picture that UW has the clear advantage and I just disagree. I even think we'll start to see UW winning opinions ramp up next week when more folks are making picks and justifying why. I think Auburn has the edge. We'll see: Our O-Line gelling and RBs running with a purpose is going to be everything.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:32 pm to SamGinn Cam
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I think we're closely matched teams and it could go either way.
That's what you'd expect for a #6 vs #9 matchup. I haven't seen anyone who really expects differently either
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Top-10 hype is justified but they're not going to be world beaters IMO like many are writing.
Who is calling them a world beater? No Pac12 country AP voter had them higher than #4 which isn't absurd
In the AP poll, the 61 vote average UW ranking was 6.1 with a median 6, high of 3 and low of 12
The 10 "Pac12 Country" voters averaged 5.4 with a median 4.5, high of 4 and low of 9
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I even think we'll start to see UW winning opinions ramp up next week when more folks are making picks and justifying why.
Opening week, the safe pick usually is the team with no obvious weaknesses who are returning great OL/DL, QB and skill positions
I think we will win, but people picking the #6 team with no clear weaknesses shouldn't be some "hype machine"
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:09 pm to ChexMix
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Arm strength is overrated as most of a Qbs passes are with 20 yards of the line of scrimmage. Tebow had a weak arm, Brandon Cox had a weak arm, Aaron Murray had a weak arm, the list goes on. Give me accuracy and anticipation over distance any day
Mostly I agree. You don't have to be able to throw the ball 70 yards in the air, but you do have to be able to hit the 10-15 year out route and not have it picked by the DB. I think Sangberg is going to help our QBs out a lot just from a maturity prospective, but I'll be shocked if he plays any while he's here. I could always be wrong though.
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