re: Auburn Fall Camp 2018 Thread

I guess everyone missed the development of Cam from game 1 to 14. Nick Marshall was head and shoulders better in year two. Stidham improved from game 1 to 14. Some of the other guys weren’t SEC quality starters.(JJ,SW,KF,JF3)

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ome of the other guys weren’t SEC quality starters.(JJ,SW,KF,

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I think you're missing the point. Coming out of HS, all three of these guys were SEC quality starters as far as recruiting projections are concerned.

The point is that we've had a terrible time with getting these QB's to actually live up to potential.

SW was the closest but he had limitations in the offense we were running and injuries. He'd have been much better in this version of our offense.

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QB recruiting is the hardest thing for everyone. Hell Saban had a true freshman nobody beat out 2 can’t miss 5 stars. It’s a crap shoot at best.

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That's fine. That is the point though. We have consistently missed under Malzahn with HS QB recruiting and have had to rely on transfers to bail us out at the position.

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Word is that Gus told the team today that Marshall won the punting job.

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I believe that Marshall put on some weight and probably stepped his game up considerably this year to compete with Siposs. But I have a hard time believing that he could improve enough to actually win the job. He was so average last year. Struggled to kick the ball over 40 yards and looked about as ridiculous in pads as I imagine I would out on a football field at 5'11 175lbs.

I am sure Siposs has some things in his game he probably needs to sharpen up to be an elite SEC punter, and I hope Marshall is pushing him to do that, but I'm going to be pretty disappointed if Marshall wins the starting job. For somebody that can punt the ball 70 yards, and was kicking professionally not too long ago, surely he can add a little bit of hang time to his kicks. And didn't he have to punt the ball through field goal posts? Surely accuracy isn't that big of an issue.

That is more than enough. I think the average in nfl is somewhere around 4.5

There are very few coaches that could have developed NM like Gus did. That was an amazing transformation in a pretty short time (he was initially a CB and now plays CB professionally).

Cam was as raw a passer as they come...huge transformation in a short period of time.

We struck out on some recruits that were highly thought of out of high school...happens. But we’ve also found some diamonds in the rough (Cam, NM)...so I don’t think Gus’s eye for talent can be questioned either.

QB recruiting is the best right now that I can remember. Gus has fixed that after struggling early. We forget he’s still learning to be a head coach with this being his first real gig at a major program.

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I guess everyone missed the development of Cam from game 1 to 14. Nick Marshall was head and shoulders better in year two. Stidham improved from game 1 to 14. Some of the other guys weren’t SEC quality starters.(JJ,SW,KF,JF3)

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Agree and lets look at the years and see where Gus "failed" to develop a high school kid


2009 - Chris Todd - I believe Gus got all he could have out of his ability.

2010 - Cameron Newton - Greatly improved from day one.

2011 - 8-5 Season with some real shite to work with. I will give you that Frazier had some talent as far as recruiting goes but not many coaches could have done anything with him. The real miss here was Barrett Trotter who was basically injured all season. And please dont throw in Clint Mosley

2012 - Auburn did not play football and Gus kicked arse at Ark State

2013 - Nick Marshall brought in and would have been the starter no matter what. Top 5 QB in Auburn history - Thanks Gus

2014 - Marshall continued to be the guy and should have been. No way he was not going to be the guy

2015 - JJ - This was a failure by Gus though I still think JJ was a smokescreen that no coach could have worked with. Dude was a head case and it was very difficult to see. Sean White certainly saved the year and Gus got all he could have out of him

2016 - Meh. JF3 was brought in but lets face it, the damage had already been done with him. He did not have the skills and there was no way Gus could have coached him up to be the guy over White who was the best guy we had, not the guy we needed. JJ had checked out mentally.

2017 - You know

2018 - You know



I consider Gus a failure with JJ and Frazier both with side notes. Not sure if any other QB coaches/Gurus could have done any better.

My point being, there really have not been many years that we needed developed QB's due to the quality of transfers we have gotten. Sure Id like a 4 year starter but you are not going to pass on a Cam or Marshall or Stidham so you can develop Kiehl Frazier or Jeremy Johnson.

He's going to jump around a lot. Got a lot of early work with receivers as that was a "newer" position to him.

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Has apparently shown more toughness than expected. That was the big knock on him coming out of high school

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