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All of the things that weren't Gus's fault
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:45 am
Ok, so this board needs a bit of balance so let me give a defense of Gus:
1. The missed throw by Stidham to Slayton - not Gus's fault
2. Miffed punt by Ryan Davis leading to Moo State TD - not Gus's fault
3. Defense getting beaten up for over 300 rushing yards - Kevin Steele's fault
4. Missed call by SEC refs leading to TD at end of first half - not Gus's fault
5. Missed call by SEC refs on fumble by WHitlow - not Gus's fault
Let me add a couple of things, our offensive line actually looked pretty decent by the third series so that gives me hope, which was REALLY impressive given that Moo State has a quality defensive line.
Good play calling and game plan overall by the coaching staff, except on defense - their offensive game plan against our defense showed that Moorehead was always one step ahead of Steele.
Ultimately, the loss does fall on Gus but I am not going to call for his firing that many of you want.
Let me finish by saying that this team absolutely can still beat UGA. This is still a really good football team.
1. The missed throw by Stidham to Slayton - not Gus's fault
2. Miffed punt by Ryan Davis leading to Moo State TD - not Gus's fault
3. Defense getting beaten up for over 300 rushing yards - Kevin Steele's fault
4. Missed call by SEC refs leading to TD at end of first half - not Gus's fault
5. Missed call by SEC refs on fumble by WHitlow - not Gus's fault
Let me add a couple of things, our offensive line actually looked pretty decent by the third series so that gives me hope, which was REALLY impressive given that Moo State has a quality defensive line.
Good play calling and game plan overall by the coaching staff, except on defense - their offensive game plan against our defense showed that Moorehead was always one step ahead of Steele.
Ultimately, the loss does fall on Gus but I am not going to call for his firing that many of you want.
Let me finish by saying that this team absolutely can still beat UGA. This is still a really good football team.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 8:49 am
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:47 am to ThaiTiger24
This is generally how I feel after the game. It was just a screw job by the refs, along with Stidham playing quite poorly. Even with the poor run defense in qtrs 2-4, if we hit the throws Stidham usually used to hit, we're already winning and can force Fitz to throw more.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:59 am to ThaiTiger24
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Defense getting beaten up for over 300 rushing yards - Kevin Steele's fault
How many 3 and puts did they deal with until our first 1st down? How many total 3 and outs in the game?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:01 am to ThaiTiger24
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Defense getting beaten up for over 300 rushing yards
This was absolutely because of the offense. The defense wasn’t playing perfect but they were getting the necessary stops.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:04 am to ThaiTiger24
This team would have to drastically improve to beat thUGA
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:05 am to ThaiTiger24
Having a shitty team after years of top 10 recruiting classes = Gus’s Fault.
I’m tired of the “we are young” bs year after year.
I’m tired of the “we are young” bs year after year.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:05 am to ThaiTiger24
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Let me add a couple of things, our offensive line actually looked pretty decent by the third series so that gives me hope, which was REALLY impressive given that Moo State has a quality defensive line.
Ashley was worked all game. We gave up a strip/sack in the second half which we were luck to get back.
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Good play calling and game plan overall by the coaching staff, except on defense -
Did you even watch the same game as the rest of us? That many 3 and outs is not a good game at all. Have basically 2 shots at long tds and missing both does not make a good game plan.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 9:51 am
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:17 am to WareagleKK
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Did you even watch the same game as the rest of us? That many 3 and puts is not a good game at all.
We had plenty of open WRs, Stidham either didn't see them, overthrew them or they dropped the passes. That isn't on the playcaller but QBs/WRs (occasionally OL). When you can't execute those plays, you are forced to tighten up which gives the D a huge advantage
As I mention below, what is more concerning is we don't seem to have many backpocket adjustments / backup plans when our playcalls can't be executed
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Even with the poor run defense in qtrs 2-4, if we hit the throws Stidham usually used to hit, we're already winning and can force Fitz to throw more.
What is troubling to me is that we basically purged routes from the playbook if they aren't part of our core philosophy. Even if we don't plan on using them, it would be nice to have as back pocket emergency adjustments
I just wish we had one more option to fall back on when everything is failing for us. Unfortunately, we just don't have a short/intermediate passing game in the middle of the field to fall back to
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:19 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Ashley for worked all game. We gave up a strip sack in the second half which we eye luck to get back
Brannigan you’re incoherent as frick. Quit typing and driving.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:21 am to GenesChin
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What is troubling to me is that we basically purged routes from the playbook if they aren't part of our core philosophy. Even if we don't plan on using them, it would be nice to have as back pocket emergency adjustments
Yep. I'm just so tired of seeing the middle of the field 10-20 yards from the LOS just completely empty. I mean defenses aren't even guarding it anymore. Almost every pass play it is completely empty. Have someone there just as a check down and to keep defenders there to help out the other routes. I mean it is pretty basic stuff.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:22 am to jangalang
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Brannigan you’re incoherent as frick. Quit typing and driving.
He is pointing out that there is a reason why Calvin Ashley hasn't played up until this point
Monty Sweat just earned some NFL money based on abusing Ashley
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:26 am to ThaiTiger24
In regards to #3 on your list. It is not Steeles fault when the defense never gets off the field. they took a pounding and eventually they tired and started waning against the run. If the offense had done its job and moved the chains...the defense would have not been tired and thus played better. Our offense sucks, our offensive line sucks, Gus really sucks. WDE.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:30 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yep. I'm just so tired of seeing the middle of the field 10-20 yards from the LOS just completely empty. I mean defenses aren't even guarding it anymore. Almost every pass play it is completely empty.
So this is by design, we lull them out of that area to setup our explosive plays that almost all occur there. It's the reason why our deep passes in the middle of the field are always wide TF open (See Stidham reverse pass, every Nick Marshall double reverse pass)
The problem is, it assumes that we can win enough on the setup plays and execute when the playcall finally comes through.
.... Unfortunately we can't do either this year
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:33 am to GenesChin
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So this is by design, our explosive plays target that area of the field. It's the reason why our deep passes in the middle of the field is always wide TF open (See Stidham reverse pass, every Nick Marshall double reverse pass)
Yea, but even so, you can have a dumpoff route 8-10 yards in the middle. It may keep a safety a little more shallow than normal and just give Stidham something if it isn't there. I get the explosive play design, but this is on almost all of our passing plays, not just the designed deep shot. Everything we do is outside the hash. I mean the fact that we had 1st and goal within the 7 i think twice in the game and didn't run one quick slant was obscene. Secondaries almost never worry about inside contain on our passing routes. They play the outside of the field because of this.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:42 am to CaptainBrannigan
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How many 3 and puts did they deal with until our first 1st down? How many total 3 and outs in the game?
Not many at all, actually
That was the worst defensive gameplan I've seen in Auburn in 4 years. You play read & react D against a guy who can't throw to save his life. You let them hold the ball for 42 mins and run for over 300 yards.
Stidham overthrew Slayton who was 30 yards past everyone.
Slayton dropped a TD.
Boobie fumble going over the goalline.
What did Gus do, again?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:49 am to ThaiTiger24
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Defense getting beaten up for over 300 rushing yards - Kevin Steele's fault
Our defense is good, but they’re not invincible. Our TOP was something like 10 minutes to their 30 minutes. When the defense is on the field that long, it’s no wonder they started getting tired. All of our problems start and end with offensive line. If we can get just a little more blocking and protection, that allows Stidham to make smarter choices, opens up lanes for our running Backs, sets up the pass, and keeps drives going longer so our defense isn’t on the field the whole night.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:50 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Chandler Cox had one check down on the drive after the blocked FG and NOBODY was around him. Low and behold it got us a first down and then we go 4 and out. The check downs to Cox were a big part of our plan against UW so why can’t we do that now?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:57 am to thirdlawson
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That was the worst defensive gameplan I've seen in Auburn in 4 years. You play read & react D against a guy who can't throw to save his life. You let them hold the ball for 42 mins and run for over 300 yards.
I agree here. Make them throw the ball, but I also agree with our D getting gassed AF all season because of the offense.
Also the KamCat was a HORRID call.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:07 am to thirdlawson
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What did Gus do, again?
Started Kam Martin when everyone knows he sucks. Only had 15 carries total through the game. Didn't even try to attack the edges in the run game.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:11 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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this is on almost all of our passing plays, not just the designed deep shot
On explosive plays, our WRs are so open due to blown coverage.
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Secondaries almost never worry about inside contain on our passing routes.
Which is why they frequently have blown coverage on explosive plays
. If the DBs first step is forward and to the sidelines expecting bubble screen or sideline route, they are burnt toast Quite a few playcalls are successful even if we gain 0 yards, if it means it sets up a future play. Rams' HC Sean McVay and 49ers HC Kyle Shanahan play call with this philosophy too.
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I mean the fact that we had 1st and goal within the 7 i think twice in the game and didn't run one quick slant was obscene.
This bothers me, because we can't throw it deep in that situation. No reason to not throw it middle of the field
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