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Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:51 pm to CharlieTiger
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:51 pm to CharlieTiger
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:58 pm to CharlieTiger
I haven’t exactly figured out how to address NIL stuff on this thread yet. Mostly because it’s almost all hearsay and most southern states FOIA laws are so relaxed that these details might not surface for years. Not sure that my buddy who’s a Bama fan is where I want to start a conversation about the intricacies of a SEC program’s NIL operation. Most of that is so blatantly against the rules that there seems like a high probability that information on the details is wrong even if those players are getting great NIL deals.
Also can’t ignore that A&M has slowly gotten better under Jimbo in both recruiting and on the field results. He did the same at FSU before that fell apart. A&M has made pretty significant investments in that football program dating back to their entrance to the SEC and they’re becoming a SECW program that many of us feared they might eventually develop into.
Not sure I want to take this very far in this thread considering it’s pretty loosely related to Auburn but we’re in a dead period. Also kinda interested in knowing how all of you feel about NIL “news” considering most of it is significantly rumor based so far.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:15 pm to TheJones
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Not sure that my buddy who’s a Bama fan is where I want to start a conversation about the intricacies of a SEC program’s NIL operation.
It's coming from some of their "insiders" and while I realize that's a very take-it-for-what-it's-worth statement, they tend to know more about all things football than anyone on the AU side.
Also, not saying it's 100% true or accurate, but A&M clearly put a lot of money on the table to get the class they got. They've gotten 5 5* players since 2016. They'll likely sign 8 this class. Regardless of the investments in the program, the on field results so far under Fisher have not warranted that kind of result and I don't think it's just a coincidence that their recruiting is blowing up the first year of the NIL legalization.
I really put it in here just to show what we're likely up against. It's only going to get harder and harder as other schools are in the process of shelling out millions(is it truly $25+?) to pull in blue chip players. If schools like A&M are doing this through wealthy boosters on a coordinated level, I can't imagine a crowd funded NIL program is going to scratch that surface for us.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:18 pm to CharlieTiger
They clearly took a big leap. Especially in state where they’re cleaning up. They also did well in GA with several top 100 guys there too.
I’m just skeptical of the process that was laid out. There’s better, more legal ways to approach NIL. But what do I know?
Edit: And you’re right about the on field production. A couple of more years of that and he’s essentially done as well as Gus did. I gave them too much credit for this season
I’m just skeptical of the process that was laid out. There’s better, more legal ways to approach NIL. But what do I know?
Edit: And you’re right about the on field production. A couple of more years of that and he’s essentially done as well as Gus did. I gave them too much credit for this season
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:43 pm to CharlieTiger
I believe that aTm/Fisher are doing exactly what Saban/REC did when he first was hired at Alabama. Saban basically ran Tubs and staff out of the state on the recruiting trail when he arrived.
IDK why Fisher didn't do this originally. I doubt anyone in CFB has the infrastructure for a previously-illegal NIL as Alabama. That's one possible reason. You also have UT in your backyard. Two. Fisher kind of did it the same way when he got the gig at FSU from Bowden too. Built recruiting. Three.
Kirby did the same at UGA when he came in as Saban at Alabama, but Kirby hasn't relented. I really don't think Saban at Albama has to do anything more egregious than other top programs these days because he has 170 national championships.
IDK why Fisher didn't do this originally. I doubt anyone in CFB has the infrastructure for a previously-illegal NIL as Alabama. That's one possible reason. You also have UT in your backyard. Two. Fisher kind of did it the same way when he got the gig at FSU from Bowden too. Built recruiting. Three.
Kirby did the same at UGA when he came in as Saban at Alabama, but Kirby hasn't relented. I really don't think Saban at Albama has to do anything more egregious than other top programs these days because he has 170 national championships.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:52 pm to CharlieTiger
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Rumor making the rounds is that A&M spent anywhere from $25-$30 million on the class
It's from a post on LSU recruiting board.
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This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:57 pm to DutchValleyTiger
Got it. That guy is the equivalent of Auburn 247’s Dukesscoops
Still seems unnecessarily blatant but Charlie’s point about the dramatic uptick stands. They’re obviously leveraging NIL well.
Still seems unnecessarily blatant but Charlie’s point about the dramatic uptick stands. They’re obviously leveraging NIL well.
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:00 pm to TheJones
Please tell me we aren't taking Calazada or whatever his name is
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:02 pm to DutchValleyTiger
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It's from a post on LSU recruiting board.
I now need to have a few words with my buddy saying it was coming from inside info from bama people.
Either way, I hope our boosters have realized that we're going to get left behind quickly if we don't start pooling some serious money now.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:03 pm to TheJones
So 25-30 million… 25-30 players. 1 million ish per player over 4 years. Probably starts at 100,000k and progressively gets larger the longer you stay in school.
I see no way this is a business model that can survive for all but about 15 schools.
Wasn’t it just like 5 years ago that only 12 or 13 schools was in the black for football. And didn’t we go in the red the 2013 season because of the money lost going to the MNC in Cali. Yes I’m aware it’s not coming from school funds
I see no way this is a business model that can survive for all but about 15 schools.
Wasn’t it just like 5 years ago that only 12 or 13 schools was in the black for football. And didn’t we go in the red the 2013 season because of the money lost going to the MNC in Cali. Yes I’m aware it’s not coming from school funds
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:05 pm to AUCE05
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Please tell me we aren't taking Calazada or whatever his name is
I hope not. new QBs alot better than Calazada are hitting the portal every day.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:06 pm to CorchJay
It can't last forever. But right now it's the wild west. We are one of the top 15 teams in the country. Top ten in football revenue. We can afford to spend with the big boys and I hope our NIL people are catching on quickly.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:08 pm to CorchJay
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I see no way this is a business model that can survive for all but about 15 schools.
Wasn’t it just like 5 years ago that only 12 or 13 schools was in the black for football.
I hear what you're saying, but this isn't money coming from the schools. This is outside money coming from the Jimmie Rane's of the world who want their schools to compete at the highest level. And A&M has no shortage of boosters who have funny money to spend.
The irony is that players aren't getting a "share of the pie" that the schools were/are getting, which I believe was the initial argument for them to get paid. It's all coming from rich boosters, or potentially in our case, crowd funded by every day fans, but I can't see that scenario ever scratching the surface of what some wealthy oil barons can put together.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:09 pm to DutchValleyTiger
Yes I’m interested to see what our guys come up with. Just seems dirty. Feels dirty.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:10 pm to DutchValleyTiger
Honestly, we probably just need to hope our boosters exploit just as much as A&M. I doubt anyone gets hit by the NCAA, but they will eventually have to create more rules after the fact.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:12 pm to CharlieTiger
Yes I know CharlieTiger I just don’t like the business end of football going in the red yet paying student athletes millions of dollars only because they are at Auburn.
I was happy just to get a partial scholarship.
And to think we got hammered for some pocket change and a slab of ribeyes just 30 odd years ago
I was happy just to get a partial scholarship.
And to think we got hammered for some pocket change and a slab of ribeyes just 30 odd years ago
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:14 pm to TheJones
quote:I could kind of see his thought process though - should I follow my OL coach to a new school that is returning 7 guys who have started games and is regarded a long shot at best for the conference title, or go to perennial Big12 champ and CFP contender Oklahoma, where I could play for one of the most respected and successful OL coaches in Bill Bedenbaugh?
Harsin hired Bobo and Friend around Jan 7th. Morris announced OU on the 18th. I imagine if Morris wanted to come to Auburn or had interest then that would have been enough time for his former coach to get involved.
Obviously things didn't work as well as he hoped in Norman - and Bedenbaugh is still there, so he's not leaving because his position coach left for USC with Riley.
He would be a huge shot in the arm to our 2022 prospects and an immediate upgrade to our OT situation. Let's hope he doesn't dislike friend THAT much....
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:16 pm to FearlessFreep
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Notre Dame OT Quinn Carroll has entered the Transfer Portal
Im sure this guy is going to LSU but deserves a call
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:20 pm to FearlessFreep
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He would be a huge shot in the arm to our 2022 prospects and an immediate upgrade to our OT situation. Let's hope he doesn't dislike friend THAT much....
He’s not even in the transfer portal
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:27 pm to TheJones
quote:Oh, my bad, I thought he had reentered and that's why he came up in this thread...
He’s not even in the transfer portal
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