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Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:40 pm
frick it, might as well fire this up.
For a stud reliever with a few years of control, I'd be willing to part with two of Allard, Fried, and Gohara. The pitching depth in the organization is so loaded that I don't think losing two of the would really hurt much, honestly
For a stud reliever with a few years of control, I'd be willing to part with two of Allard, Fried, and Gohara. The pitching depth in the organization is so loaded that I don't think losing two of the would really hurt much, honestly
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:29 pm to VADawg
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For a stud reliever with a few years of control, I'd be willing to part with two of Allard, Fried, and Gohara.
Nope, not this year. We aren't going deep into the playoffs and likely have no chance at making it. I would go in with the same team and see how they do. Same thing the Brewers did last season when they were on the cusp a year early. Don't sell pieces when your still so inconsistent and don't have the starting pitching to push far. We spent years blowing this thing apart to get to where we are.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:08 am to Prettyboy Floyd
That's why I said "a few years of control". This farm system is so deep with arms that losing two of those guys wouldn't really hurt that much
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:22 am to VADawg
Doing nothing doesn't send a great message.
If there is no tolerable deal to be had, fine, but I would hope AA is exploring all possibilities to improve the team without undermining the future. There is no reason this team can't make the playoffs.
While I know we're not winning the WS, that is a silly standard to use IMO. We're going to go spend huge in the offseason for a team that didn't try to get better when they were .5 games out of first? And we want to beat other major market teams for those guys? We're asking for a rise in season ticket sales when we didn't make any serious effort to win a winnable division the season prior? It's just not a good look unless there were just no feasible options available.
If there is no tolerable deal to be had, fine, but I would hope AA is exploring all possibilities to improve the team without undermining the future. There is no reason this team can't make the playoffs.
While I know we're not winning the WS, that is a silly standard to use IMO. We're going to go spend huge in the offseason for a team that didn't try to get better when they were .5 games out of first? And we want to beat other major market teams for those guys? We're asking for a rise in season ticket sales when we didn't make any serious effort to win a winnable division the season prior? It's just not a good look unless there were just no feasible options available.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:47 am to Pettifogger
Bring in a reliever(Hand, Watson, O'Day) and maybe a right hander that can platoon in center and strengthen our bench(Adam Jones?), and let it play out. That wouldnt cost too much.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:11 am to devils1854
Everytime the Braves have spent at deadlines it’s always cost too much. The teams that aren’t in the running are looking to fleece competing teams and teams continually way over pay only to get bounced in the first round or not make the playoffs. Then the prospects we send end up doing pretty well. The last time I can remember a deadline deal going way in our favor was Fred Mcgriff.
Not ok with giving up Allard, Gohara as two top 100 pitching prospects at this time and certainly not for rentals. I’m afraid we are about to over pay for Moose.
Not ok with giving up Allard, Gohara as two top 100 pitching prospects at this time and certainly not for rentals. I’m afraid we are about to over pay for Moose.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 10:14 am
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:35 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Welp. Hand to the Indians.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 1:18 pm to RollDatRoll
Know itll never happen but would yall be okay with this move..
kolby allard, ender inciarte, max fried, luis gohara and teheran for degrom wheeler and conforto
Edit: mets fan friend proposed it to me
kolby allard, ender inciarte, max fried, luis gohara and teheran for degrom wheeler and conforto
Edit: mets fan friend proposed it to me
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 1:31 pm to mikeboss550
That would be tough for me to do, because Conforto has shown very little power this year. His slugging percentage is lower than his OBP was last year.
I'd rather just strictly trade for deGrom. Adding Wheeler and Conforto do nothing for me. I would need to see Conforto actually put together an entire season like he did last year in 109 games before I'd consider trading all of those prospects.
I'd rather just strictly trade for deGrom. Adding Wheeler and Conforto do nothing for me. I would need to see Conforto actually put together an entire season like he did last year in 109 games before I'd consider trading all of those prospects.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 1:45 pm to VinegarStrokes
I mean to get degrom we are gonna have to pay so payingbwhat we would in thatvtrade to get conforto and wheeler seems worth it to me....we keep anderson, and riley and getv3 yrs od deGrom...teheran is bad right now so a change in a more friendly park could help
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:04 pm to mikeboss550
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I mean to get degrom we are gonna have to pay so payingbwhat we would in thatvtrade to get conforto and wheeler seems worth it to me....we keep anderson, and riley and getv3 yrs od deGrom...teheran is bad right now so a change in a more friendly park could help
I would imagine that including conforto would require us to add much more than it would to just get deGrom. That dude is still really young and has played very well when healthy with the exception of this year.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:10 pm to VinegarStrokes
Degrom is a legitimate ace at the moment. He would demand several high pro file prospects but he’s 30. I would take a deal for him for the right price if he will sign a multi year deal and not give away to many pieces.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:18 pm to VinegarStrokes
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I would imagine that including conforto would require us to add much more than it would to just get deGrom. That dude is still really young and has played very well when healthy with the exception of this year.
My buddy who is a mets front office intern asked me if as a braves fan id take that offer...i said yes, bow i doubt it would ever happen but i do kbow the mets have no intention of resigning degrom at 32 so selling now is a huge need for them and to getvthatvtype of haul theyd need to toss in a conforto and teheran for wheeler is just a change of scenery type
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:24 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Degrom is a legitimate ace at the moment. He would demand several high pro file prospects but he’s 30. I would take a deal for him for the right price if he will sign a multi year deal and not give away to many pieces.
I understand that. I'm saying adding Conforto to a deGrom deal would add even more prospects than what I'd be willing to part with. The guy I was responding to made it seem like Wheeler and Conforto would be throw ins, which is not the case.
We don't need deGrom to sign a multi year deal. He's got 2 years of arb left which would put him at 32 when he hits free agency. We won't need him after that and I certainly wouldn't want to invest money when we would also need to pay Folty (if he doesn't sign a deal before then).
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:28 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
I guess it depends on what the Mets really want. We're pretty loaded with pitching prospects and young guys in the rotation. Folty, Newcomb, Soroka with Wright getting in the mix. And we still have Toussaint, Anderson, Gohara, Allard and Fried. And we've got some guys with the Firefrogs.
I'd prefer moving some of the older guys like Julio and Ender, but no idea what the Mets need.
Bottom line is the Cubs are cranking up and the Dodgers are going to get much better with Machado so it ain't getting any easier to win the NL and make it to the World Series.
I'd prefer moving some of the older guys like Julio and Ender, but no idea what the Mets need.
Bottom line is the Cubs are cranking up and the Dodgers are going to get much better with Machado so it ain't getting any easier to win the NL and make it to the World Series.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:23 pm to VADawg
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For a stud reliever with a few years of control, I'd be willing to part with two of Allard, Fried, and Gohara.
god no. Look at Cleveland's bullpen this year - it is littered with guys who were stud relievers as recently as last year.
Success out of the bullpen is so volatile, there's no way I'm giving up two of those guys. We are more than one reliever away from winning a world series.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 6:06 pm to mikeboss550
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Know itll never happen but would yall be okay with this move..
kolby allard, ender inciarte, max fried, luis gohara and teheran for degrom wheeler and conforto
You can keep Wheeler and Conforto just give me DeGrom and Syndergaard. I'll even throw in Sam Freeman and Matt Wisler lol
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:59 pm to bigdawg7780
shite, for deGrom AND Syndergaard I'd toss in one of Wright or Toussaint and one of the low minors guys like Wentz, Wilson, or Anderson.
deGrom
Syndergaard
Folty
Soroka
Newcomb
I could live with that rotation
deGrom
Syndergaard
Folty
Soroka
Newcomb
I could live with that rotation
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:03 pm to ATLdawg25
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Look at Cleveland's bullpen this year - it is littered with guys who were stud relievers as recently as last year
Miller is hurt and Allen was always a little overrated. You can't predict injuries like Miller has dealt with. He'd hardly pitched all season.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:27 am to VADawg
Britton to the yanks
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