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re: Where's the Mike Anderson Haters?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:45 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:45 pm to Stonehog
quote:He's had 9 tries. That's an eternity in coaching.
but you're not applying that line of thinking to Mike?
It depends on what you mean by turning a program around. If you mean a team with a losing record winning 18-19 games the next year then yeah. But two classes is an entire roster turnover in a sport full of one and dones. That CAN turn a program around. What Mike walked into gave him 3 years to fix everything. It's been an additional 6 years since then. There are no excuses. He's had more than enough time to show off his coaching chops.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 4:49 pm
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:49 pm to Drewbie
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And no, I don't think a program can get completely turned around in one class.
Got it. So it wasn't my reading comprehension, you just said something you don't actually believe and now you're backtracking.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:49 pm to Stonehog
quote:I said one class can greatly impact the roster, not the program. So no, again it's your shitty reading.
Got it. So it wasn't my reading comprehension, you just said something you don't actually believe and now you're backtracking.
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It takes one class to completely change the dynamic of your roster.
The direct quote, dumbass.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:51 pm to Drewbie
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They've already been to the elite 8. They could be complete cheeks this year and it wouldn't even matter. The point is it took Beard a whopping 2 years to outperform Mike at a lesser program.
But what if he sucks the rest of the time he's there?
Someone compared Mike Anderson's tenure here to Frank Martin at South Carolina and I thought it was interesting. MA is better in pretty much every category statistically but Martin has been to a final 4 so for some people that holds more weight. Just depends if you'd rather make one deep run but be one of the worst teams in the conference 80% of the time otherwise, or consistently be above average but never get over the hump.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 4:57 pm to Drewbie
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The direct quote, dumbass.
Is something wrong? Seems like you have some misdirected anger. Here's the context too, instead of just one quote:
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Biggest myth among fans with college basketball is “it takes time”.
This. I've already stated why I'm ok with giving Mike this group of kids, but this post perfectly sums up why I had zero patience with Mike.
Football is the sport that takes time. There are 85 players on the roster so obviously you aren't just going to come in and replace everyone.
Basketball takes one recruiting class. Sometimes even just one recruit.
You said you had zero patience with Mike. That it takes one recruiting class, or even just one player to turn things around. Just stand by what you said instead of having these emotional outbursts.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:00 pm to Stonehog
quote:Nah. Nothing's misdirected. You add nothing to this board. You're part of the reason this place is going to shite. You exist to stir the pot and troll. Go frick yourself.
Is something wrong? Seems like you have some misdirected anger.
quote:It is perfectly normal to be out of patience 9 years into a coaching tenure.
You said you had zero patience with Mike.
quote:100% true.
That it takes one recruiting class, or even just one player to turn things around.
quote:Haven't backed down from a single thing. Only corrected your dumb attempts to change the meaning of quotes by actually posting what I said.
Just stand by what you said instead of having these emotional outbursts.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:04 pm to Drewbie
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Nah. Nothing's misdirected. You add nothing to this board. You're part of the reason this place is going to shite. You exist to stir the pot and troll. Go frick yourself.
Jesus, chill out man. This is not healthy.
You think posting the same thing about Mike every day is bringing something to the board?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:06 pm to Stonehog
quote:I've been largely positive about Mike for most of this season. No clue what you're reading. I'm sure you'll find your next thread to annoy people in soon.
You think posting the same thing about Mike every day is bringing something to the board?
You come in here and accuse anyone not supporting Mike of being a racist and expect people to take you seriously.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:08 pm to Drewbie
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And no, I don't think a program can get completely turned around in one class.
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That it takes one recruiting class, or even just one player to turn things around.
100% true.
Both of these quotes are from you. You're so angry that you can't even keep up with your own argument.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:10 pm to Stonehog
quote:How can you not comprehend the difference in impacting a roster and impacting an entire program? It's complete absurdity to think a single recruiting class could transform an entire program. Recruiting classes, however, do have a greater impact on team performance from year to year in basketball given the nature of the sport, and a single recruiting class can make a team that wasn't good the year before into a competitive one.
Both of these quotes are from you. You're so angry that you can't even keep up with your own argument.
Troll on.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:11 pm to Drewbie
A recruiting class can impact a roster? Groundbreaking stuff. I can tell you're really smart.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:13 pm to Stonehog
And racist too, right? 
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:15 pm to Drewbie
Might be time for some self reflection.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:16 pm to Stonehog
Another thread derailed by Stonehog. What a wonderful addition to this board.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:20 pm to Stonehog
quote:Yes, rosters. The word I've been using from the beginning before you decided throwing the word program around.
A recruiting class can impact a roster? Groundbreaking stuff. I can tell you're really smart.
Recruiting classes impact ROSTERS in basketball significantly more because you're recruiting a greater percentage of your roster every year versus a sport like football. Therefore, recruiting classes will have a greater impact on team performance from year to year.
There, welcome to the point that was made an hour ago. Now that you're caught up with the rest of the class, can we continue?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:20 pm to Drewbie
Dude, it's ok. You were wrong on the internet. It's not a big deal and it happens to the best of us.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:21 pm to Stonehog
You've said literally nothing in rebuttal to even make this a debate. This is just you trolling and me humoring you with responses.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:30 pm to Drewbie
So I derailed a thread about Mike Anderson haters by talking about people who hate Mike Anderson.
You've been arguing with yourself, I was just pointing it out. I think Mike has turned the program around, and it didn't take him 9 years. Stop trying to gaslight people.
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You've said literally nothing in rebuttal to even make this a debate.
You've been arguing with yourself, I was just pointing it out. I think Mike has turned the program around, and it didn't take him 9 years. Stop trying to gaslight people.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:34 pm to Stonehog
quote:I'm not gaslighting anyone. I literally started off by saying I'm in full support of Mike with this roster and have been on that bus since I saw the potential of this roster. The only disagreement was whether or not his past achievements have been satisfactory. (Which is completely subjective anyway)
Stop trying to gaslight people.
quote:Not at all. My point has been concrete since last year. I've been done with Mike for a while, but I want to see him coach this team. If he fails with this group, it's coaching change time.
You've been arguing with yourself
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:07 pm to Drewbie
At ease guys.
I think we can all agree this appears to be an exciting team and if anything, the most truly "Mike" team we've had for a while.
Just hope everyone keeps it in perspective that they will struggle mightily on the road and probably some at home against SEC teams.
We also need to keep in mind, other than BoarEd that Gafford is still pretty raw talent and isn't the complete once in a generation game changer ala Anthony Davis some make him out to be.
Mike has been blessed with some solid in state talent, has def. missed out on some but in the end, I doubt Archie Goodwin and Malik Monk would have changed our fortunes very much.
The team had talent last year but was also chalk full of "me" guys that had huge gaps in their game. Mike is at fault in some part for letting himself get held hostage by JUCOs like that but it is what it is and they were pretty fun to watch.
Pretty excited to see how this roster pans out and if anything he deserves a lot of credit for identifying these guys.
Get Moody and a few others and we've got a decent shot in the next few years at a solid run which is all I think anyone is hungry for.
I think we can all agree this appears to be an exciting team and if anything, the most truly "Mike" team we've had for a while.
Just hope everyone keeps it in perspective that they will struggle mightily on the road and probably some at home against SEC teams.
We also need to keep in mind, other than BoarEd that Gafford is still pretty raw talent and isn't the complete once in a generation game changer ala Anthony Davis some make him out to be.
Mike has been blessed with some solid in state talent, has def. missed out on some but in the end, I doubt Archie Goodwin and Malik Monk would have changed our fortunes very much.
The team had talent last year but was also chalk full of "me" guys that had huge gaps in their game. Mike is at fault in some part for letting himself get held hostage by JUCOs like that but it is what it is and they were pretty fun to watch.
Pretty excited to see how this roster pans out and if anything he deserves a lot of credit for identifying these guys.
Get Moody and a few others and we've got a decent shot in the next few years at a solid run which is all I think anyone is hungry for.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 6:08 pm
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