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We need someone like Bill Clark in the worst way.

Posted on 10/14/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 2:42 pm
I was thinking about how Chad Morris could possibly save his job at this point. I think we'd need to beat WKU and two SEC games for anyone to have any faith restored in him. That's the thing. It's not really the low win amount, it's the fact that things will clearly not improve by any significant degree under this guy. Most people were willing to accept missing a bowl as long as he won the gimmes and took down a league opponent. That would be SOME improvement. It would be at least displaying a modicum of competency that could be build upon. It's looking like he can't even meet the haughty bar of five wins in year two.

The whole "five year rebuild" thing that's been made a meme is going to apply to the next guy without a shred of irony. We're low, guys. We're Kansas and Vanderbilt low. The chances of hiring someone who comes in and has immediate amazing results like Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss after their 2–10 season is not likely. We're going to have to put up with a slow rebuild from the next person.

Clark has done nothing but succeed. He's 106–11 as a high school coach. Then he moved to the coordinator position in the collegiate ranks and did well enough to get a head coach position at FCS school Jacksonville State. He went 11–4 and took them to the playoffs his first year. The year before that they went 6–5 and lost to our 2012 squad. Then he got a G5 job at UAB and went bowl eligible 6–6 his first year in 2014. They hadn't been bowl eligible since 2004. They shut the program back and he comes back three years later and immediately takes them to 8–5, 11–3 (giving them a brief ranking for the first time in program history), and now they're 5–1.

He's done this so methodically that he's gone completely unnoticed. He ground away in the HS ranks, stomped the competition, and took a humble promotion. Then did so again. And again. Jacksonville State and UAB are storied losers, but he overcame it by knowing how to coach football.

He's been in Alabama his entire life, so I know we'd lose those vaunted Texas recruiting benefits, but so fricking what. It's not helped us. Keeping our good recruits in-state and then cherry picking what we can from the bordering states seems doable with anyone whose competent and hard-working enough. Texas is a huge state, but all they're really good for with their 7-on-7 is skill positions, it seems. We can get a decent QB, WR, and RB from Texas every year without much trouble. Get some high 3* OL and DL from Louisiana, maybe even utilize his Alabama connections to get some of the players that Alabama and Auburn have overlooked. Philon would be a prime example of this. Combine all this with a handful of 4* from Arkansas, and I don't see why we couldn't return to at least being somewhat competitive.

I really can't think of another actually attainable coach that would inspire excitement from me after Morris is fired. Everyone else has weird baggage, succeeds in the lower ranks on a gimmicky offense, is too old and has failed somewhere else, or is just as big of a risk as Chad Morris was. I don't think we're going to poach another high profile coach during our next search. It really pisses me off how the UofA wasn't just a little bit smarter during the last search. There were good names out there that made more sense than Chad Morris and his shitty, losing record at SMU.

The point is, Bill Clark has done what he's done slowly, but with tangible, consistent, and linear progress. And from complete scratch every time. That seems exactly like what we need, and it's probably the best we can hope for anyway, given our mismanagement of the football program since 2012.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7728 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:02 pm to
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I was thinking about how Chad Morris could possibly save his job at this point.


No disrespect intended, but I stopped reading right here.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12388 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:31 pm to
Clark is my clear #1.

The guy is the epitome of a program builder and a winner. He quite literally brought UAB back from the dead and they're better than ever. Plus he's from the south and "gets" the SEC and SEC culture unlike our last two coaches.

Clark is the perfect candidate. Which means we probably won't even consider him.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22715 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 5:38 pm to
I they haven't already reached out to Bill Clark then Hunter needs to be fired.

5he thing is though, Clark is going to be a hot name this offseason. We should have grabbed hom last year.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5084 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 5:53 pm to
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Clark is my clear #1.


I just did some research on him and that is not a bad choice at all, sorta warming up to the idea.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:00 pm to
Neal Brown was my guy during Morris' search. If we don't hire Clark at the end of this year, some other down and out program is going to be a whole lot better and we're going to be thinking "could have been us."
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:16 pm to
I was on the Morris bandwagon coming into the season but based on what I've seen this season I don't think he can turn this around.

Baylor of all programs is 6-0; just a few short years from their program being on the verge of getting the death penalty. They've gone from 1-11 to 6-0 over 3 seasons. I expected Morris to make the same improvements but we may have regressed from last year, if that's even possible.

No way Morris doesn't get a 3rd year though.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57728 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:30 pm to
Solid. Surely someone on the Hill knows this right?
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:55 pm to
As a resident of Birmingham, Clark isn’t going anywhere. He stayed here despite UAB’s program going defunct. Pretty sure he’s a UAB lifer
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22729 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:54 pm to
3.5-4 million a year with our facilities, and staff $$$ may change those feelings.

I just know we have to do something, this is suckage at the highest order...
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:12 pm to
Easily the best, realistic option out there. I’m firmly on the Clark train.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:16 pm to
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As a resident of Birmingham, Clark isn’t going anywhere. He stayed here despite UAB’s program going defunct. Pretty sure he’s a UAB lifer

That’s some funny shite. If he gets a offer for 3 mil at a SEC program he will without a doubt take it, this is stupid to think he wouldn’t.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13534 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:43 pm to

Clark is my #1 this trip around the coaching carousel. He may be loyal to UAB to a degree but put $4 million in front of him, along with the SEC, top notch facilities, and statewide support and THEN see how he feels.

If he says no, just go get Norvell already. This should be a foregone conclusion.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:07 am to
Maybe. We saw Chris Petersen stay like six years too long as Boise State, so we know sometimes coaches have attachment to a "lesser" program. If, for whatever strange reason, he does stay at UAB, I got nothing but respect for that. But it'll be unacceptable to let him move on to another program. UAB should keep him, or we should get him. There should be no third option in mind with the UA boosters and administration.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3901 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 12:12 am to
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Clark is my #1 this trip around the coaching carousel. He may be loyal to UAB to a degree but put $4 million in front of him, along with the SEC, top notch facilities, and statewide support and THEN see how he feels.

If he says no, just go get Norvell already. This should be a foregone conclusion.


This, exactly. Make Clark give us the most regretful no of his life, and then Norvell should be the #2. I almost want to say pass just because he's been on the market for so long that there has to be something that the people with money know that we don't, but god damn. Our trajectory is not sustainable. We're a traditionally football school in a majorly football conference. We have a 75,000 seat stadium to fill that we're constantly making improvements upon. We need to pick ourselves up out of the mud and spend the money that it takes to justify all of this pomp and big talk.

We could be a school that wins baseball NCs with some notion of regularity, a couple more basketball NCs over the next 30 years when the conditions are right, and a 9-win football school that has a puncher's chance at the SEC every four or five years when we're front-loaded with RS seniors and juniors at key positions.
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