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Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:25 pm to
You mad?
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2714 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:29 pm to
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Y'all melt with the best of them and always seemed to be pissed off over relatively nothing.


The same people melting over transfers melted over us hiring Pittman
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
62167 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:00 pm to
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What did everyone expect from a guy who complained about the salary of coaches. The buyouts and wanting performance based pay?

Problem is he’s trying to use common sense rules while others are using clown rules
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20011 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:23 pm to
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the fact that he reiterated that Arkansas will continue to do NIL the "right way?"

We've been doing it the "right way" before NIL. Look where it's gotten us.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18384 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:45 pm to
Nope, I didn't bat an eye when we hired Pittman... However I am very concerned with Brooks and Foucha leaving
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
39211 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:47 pm to
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We've been doing it the "right way" before NIL. Look where it's gotten us.


We are Arkansas.
If Frank was alive he'd have donors lined up. That's what he did, sadly our AD's since Frank have been big fricking pussies.

RIP Paw paw

Posted by BadPiggy
NW Arkansas
Member since Jan 2015
533 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:18 pm to
I'm not one for melting, but it has become very very clear that "the right way" now means $$$ and $$$ to the athletes. LEGAL money. That IS the RIGHT way now. Not some romantic yarn of notion that never actually existed. There has always been money involved. We can either accept that like Ole Miss, Missouri and others have done, and compete, or we can belong where we have been in the Bert/Chad/Smiley years.

It's simply not going to happen without buying players now. Right now, it doesn't look like Arkansas has the stomach for it, and after 50+ years, I not sure I see a reason to bother with Arkansas.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:17 am to
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Better than Catalon?

I'd like to ask why that matters as both deserve tons of publicity but I'll go ahead and say yes based on achievements. Catalon has potential to be as good as brown but he's gonna need to achieve

First team all sec And Lead sec in interceptions and be atleast 2nd in nation in interceptions.

Catalon is a talent for sure but brown played his arse off for us and is gonna be excellent in the NFL
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:19 am to
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Just like Kam Curl, and half the fans disliked him while playing here.

He was a solid corner for us. People really underestimate what it takes to even be an average sec corner let alone be talented enough to play in the NFL.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
66134 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 4:42 am to
Brown and Curl are definitely the only corners I've noticed enough to remember since Chris Houston. Usually if you remember members of the secondary it's for the wrong reasons, but all of these guys balled the hell out in red and white.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 4:49 am to
Ryan Pulley was pretty good
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15599 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 5:16 am to
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So blow your wad in the beginning trying to out spend aTm? And when it was the Wild West and people were getting paid discretely during the SWC how much did that money help aTm?

If y'all haven't seen the Pony Excess 30 for 30 doc, I highly recommend it.

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It wasn't just that the Aggies lost Dickerson, though, but the way it happened.

The part of the story that makes it compelling and noteworthy is the fact that Dickerson showed up to Sealy High School with a new gold Pontiac Trans Am shortly after announcing he was going to sign with Texas A&M. Suspicions ran rampant, but Dickerson claimed that his grandmother, Viola, purchased it for him. Meyer joked that they called it the "Trans A&M."

Even while sticking to that claim, Dickerson admitted in the 30 for 30 documentary "Pony Exce$$" that Texas A&M offered him money, saying that the Aggies "showed my mother $50,000 in a briefcase."

How did SMU up the ante? Dickerson will never tell.

Steve Endicott, who was an SMU assistant at the time, said in the documentary that Texas A&M "made the down payment on the car, and we helped him with it after he got to SMU."
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 8:48 am to
That Dickerson case was what I was alluding to. A&M paid him, and he still didn’t go and there wasn’t a thing they could do. The way NIL is setup we can’t promise them anything for signing. We can just offer them deals to be a face of a brand. Nothing can be contingent on them being at a university.

I heard Quinn Ewers transferred from Ohio because for his $1m signing bonus, he had to have 8 starts over 2 years to collect the bonus, so he went to Ryan Day and said I need to start next year, and Day said GTFO we have a Heisman candidate QB. So he went to Texas where he knew he would start.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 8:52 am to
I don’t think there is anything stopping anyone from creating a fund that says for every TD you get X. Every field goal you get X.

Then for basketball every point you make you get $10 but if your shooting percentage is over 37% then you get $25 a point. Make that for every player on the team.

I still think our best bet is if Tyson money realizes getting Catalon to give out food to needy families and put that on their YouTube page would go viral, giving him $10s of thousands of dollars for that per video, sure to go viral and be played multiple times during a broadcast, so it would be free advertising for Tyson in viral moments, which is what every company wants now.

Same goes for hiring the whole secondary by Walmart money and sending them to local schools here and in their home towns, having the superintendent or principles of those schools pick out poor families to get Christmas gifts. Or having 300 back packs set up for back to school supplies. Those moments would go viral for Walmart. Look at when a player pays off a layaway.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 8:56 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:01 am to
TL;DR:

Just giving them money isn’t going to create much feedback for any company. Especially to a kid with sub 5k followers on Instagram. The reason why Livvy Dunne has posts worth so much is because of all her followers, mostly because she is beautiful, but we have beautiful gymnast that could capitalize.

If we want companies to help the NIL funds, especially small businesses like Wrights, they need viral press that will cause people to eat there. For Wrights, they need to have the OL during the summer come help them give away BBQ to the Jones Center or something. That way ESPN can record it and use it all fall in their fluff pieces.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3602 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:20 am to
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If we want companies to help the NIL funds, especially small businesses like Wrights, they need viral press that will cause people to eat there. For Wrights, they need to have the OL during the summer come help them give away BBQ to the Jones Center or something. That way ESPN can record it and use it all fall in their fluff piece


If our boosters are going to require a proper ROI well be left behind in the arms race. Truth is there are only a couple of guys on the roster whose endorsement is worth anything. Nobody gives 2 shits about a blue chip lineman recruit's NIL. However those are the guys you have to pay to win a championship now. The NCAA really effed this situation up.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:23 am to
That’s true. Especially considering linemen are the least likely to see early playing time. A lot of times if we sign a big o-line recruit, I’ve almost forgotten his name by the time he gets to see the field
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:39 am to
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Ryan Pulley


When he wasn't chasin' cheerleaders like a lost puppy dog
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1134 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:47 am to
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I don’t think there is anything stopping anyone from creating a fund that says for every TD you get X. Every field goal you get X.

Then for basketball every point you make you get $10 but if your shooting percentage is over 37% then you get $25 a point. Make that for every player on the team.

Pretty sure the law prohibits contracts involving a student athlete's performance or lack of performance in athletic competition. See Ark. Code Ann. 4-75-1304(a)(3).
Posted by Razorbacking
Member since Aug 2013
87 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:12 am to
Players have been volunteering for forever and it hardly gets any attention. I think it’s generous to suggest Catalon handing out food would bring any type of attention, let alone go viral.

Large corporations will not be at the forefront of NIL. Dr. Pepper was the only company I can remember that has done some NIL and that is because it fits well into their college football commercial series.
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