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re: The Kings thoughts: Leach would average 8 or 9 wins a year here
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:57 pm to King
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:57 pm to King
Leach is by far from the safest bet.
He is 1-5 in the weak weak PAC this year.
There will not be a high demand for for a 4 or 5 win Leach this season which is why he was on the phone calling Arkansas this AM.
He is 1-5 in the weak weak PAC this year.
There will not be a high demand for for a 4 or 5 win Leach this season which is why he was on the phone calling Arkansas this AM.
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:58 pm to RazorBroncs
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Why not get the man that taught him his offense and made him successful? Just go straight to the source.
I'd be knocking shite over for quite awhile if we did get Norvell. My johnson rod would be sticking out at all times, which explains why I'd be knocking stuff over. I'm stupid, I know, but IDGAF.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:09 pm to DaleDenton
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DaleDenton
Who would you pick and why?
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He is 1-5 in the weak weak PAC this year.
It's WSU and they are as weak as the PAC. I look more towards his TTU results as a comparison for us.
He may not be the best answer. It is all a gamble and looking at history he seems safest to me.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:13 pm to King
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He may not be the best answer. It is all a gamble and looking at history he seems safest to me.
Yeah only because you know exactly what you are not going to get, conference titles for one.
Guaranteed FCS wins for another.
Sound defensive play year in and out for another.
A sound running game for another.
I wish you Leach people would admit you like him only because he passes the ball 99% of the time instead of trying to build him up while dancing around this and ignoring what this offense "achieved" in the SEC and how they were achieving it.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:17 pm to DaleDenton
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DaleDenton
Pissy arse. Who do you recommend? For what reasons?
All I want is to win and I don't give two shits who it is that does it.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:19 pm to King
Are you sure?
Because your also saying a coach who is currently 1-5 in the PAC would average 8-9 wins a year at Arkansas in the SEC.
Because your also saying a coach who is currently 1-5 in the PAC would average 8-9 wins a year at Arkansas in the SEC.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:23 pm to King
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I think the safest bet is Leach. We can't afford to gamble and lose again. It's been 8 fricking years.
How is Leach safe? Personally, the guy is half off his rocker and his offense isn’t as innovative as it was perceived 10 years ago.
He is in the midst of a very subpar season right now in a very weak P5 league.
I’ll take a hard pass.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:24 pm to DaleDenton
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which is why he was on the phone calling Arkansas this AM.
Like that is true or you have that info
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:24 pm to DaleDenton
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Are you sure?
Because your also saying a coach who is currently 1-5 in the PAC would average 8-9 wins a year at Arkansas in the SEC
Look at his coaching history. I'm not judging him on this one year. He has a history, so you know what you get. WSU is not Arkansas. We can get a qb and receivers under him. I would prefer a Petrino offfense, but I don't think that's worth pursuing due to Petrino's negatives.
You still have not said who you would pick?
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:24 pm to King
It's ridiculous what these coaches are being paid.What's the incentive to win when you are going to make bank no matter what.
Morris leaves here a multimillionaire.I doubt he's very mad about it,like a ton of weight is off his shoulders and he can not do another damn thing work wise in in his life and he's set.
This coaching money crap is screwed up.They should be made to earn that money.
But here we are,the coaches are rich before the first snap.Must be nice.
Morris leaves here a multimillionaire.I doubt he's very mad about it,like a ton of weight is off his shoulders and he can not do another damn thing work wise in in his life and he's set.
This coaching money crap is screwed up.They should be made to earn that money.
But here we are,the coaches are rich before the first snap.Must be nice.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:25 pm to Hawgeye
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How is Leach safe? Personally, the guy is half off his rocker and his offense isn’t as innovative as it was perceived 10 years ago.
He is in the midst of a very subpar season right now in a very weak P5 league.
I’ll take a hard pass.
I can respect that, but who would you pick and for what reason?
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:29 pm to King
I see Leach as a Nutt type hire. You have a guy who will beat those who he is supposed to beat and lose to those he is supposed to lose to.
He will drop a few he shouldn't and win a few he shouldn't.
I want respectability back. We are not fricking Alabama and never will be.
He will drop a few he shouldn't and win a few he shouldn't.
I want respectability back. We are not fricking Alabama and never will be.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:30 pm to momentoftruth87
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Like that is true or you have that info
He and Freeze were the first two to make contact.
Good news the coaching search continues.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:35 pm to King
I’ve posted here multiple times my thoughts. It’s not popular but the program needs leadership that can rebuild/stabilize and climb this thing out of the gutter. National Title y’all, sec title talk shouldn’t even be a thought at this point. Climbing to 5 wins, 6 wins, then 7 wins should be the goal over the next three seasons. Build the program back from the interior outward. Meaning, start with your big uglies and defensive linemen and move outward.
Les Miles, Butch Davis, and Skip Holtz.
Seasoned head coaches who know how to build the proper way.
What you’re left with when you hire coaches who do not value the lines, is what we have currently. Petrino had success so soon because of Nutt leftovers on the Oline. Nutt had success with Fords leftovers because of the Oline.
Morris’s biggest hurdle was the lack of anything here on the Oline. Once Pittman left Bert, the Oline recruiting took a nosedive. Morris’s choice in recruiting seemed to focus on highly touted skill players and depth/hole fillers on the OL. That’s not how this is going to work. Can’t and won’t work that way.
Les Miles, Butch Davis, and Skip Holtz.
Seasoned head coaches who know how to build the proper way.
What you’re left with when you hire coaches who do not value the lines, is what we have currently. Petrino had success so soon because of Nutt leftovers on the Oline. Nutt had success with Fords leftovers because of the Oline.
Morris’s biggest hurdle was the lack of anything here on the Oline. Once Pittman left Bert, the Oline recruiting took a nosedive. Morris’s choice in recruiting seemed to focus on highly touted skill players and depth/hole fillers on the OL. That’s not how this is going to work. Can’t and won’t work that way.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:37 pm to Hawgeye
Les isnt leaving his bf Jeff. I'm happy for both of them they ended up together.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:38 pm to DaleDenton
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Freeze
Would win some games, but we would be under the microscope. Not worth the risk IMO
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:41 pm to Hawgeye
There’s way more evidence that says mike would be a good coach than bad. He’s in the middle of one bad season after 4 good ones including an 11 win season last year and the man might still make a bowl this year in a rebuilding year.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:44 pm to Hawgeye
So let me get this straight.. we hired morris all based off of one 7-5 season but god forbid mike leach have one down season after countless seasons of success piled on success again we are talking about a man who has made a bowl game in 89% of the seasons he’s coached. How much more consistent can he be? Oh yeah he’s 1-4 right now and is having one bad year and has lost twice to fcs schools (both in the first 3 years at Washington state I believe, he’s 12-2 vs fcs all time) in 17 years of head coaching
again we are talking about a man who has made a bowl game in 89% of the seasons he’s coached. How much more consistent can he be? Oh yeah he’s 1-4 right now and is having one bad year and has lost twice to fcs schools (both in the first 3 years at Washington state I believe, he’s 12-2 vs fcs all time) in 17 years of head coaching Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Hes had a great career, but I think some people see there is a lot of smoke and not enough fire. West coast football has been dead for awhile. The fact people from other fanbases like him because hes called "the pirate" turns me off personally. I dont want a pirate, I want the best coach out there.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:48 pm to Hawgeye
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I’ve posted here multiple times my thoughts. It’s not popular but the program needs leadership that can rebuild/stabilize and climb this thing out of the gutter. National Title y’all, sec title talk shouldn’t even be a thought at this point. Climbing to 5 wins, 6 wins, then 7 wins should be the goal over the next three seasons. Build the program back from the interior outward. Meaning, start with your big uglies and defensive linemen and move outward.
Les Miles, Butch Davis, and Skip Holtz.
Seasoned head coaches who know how to build the proper way.
What you’re left with when you hire coaches who do not value the lines, is what we have currently. Petrino had success so soon because of Nutt leftovers on the Oline. Nutt had success with Fords leftovers because of the Oline.
Morris’s biggest hurdle was the lack of anything here on the Oline. Once Pittman left Bert, the Oline recruiting took a nosedive. Morris’s choice in recruiting seemed to focus on highly touted skill players and depth/hole fillers on the OL. That’s not how this is going to work. Can’t and won’t work that way.
Good take, but would any of those 3 Les, Butch, Skip be able to keep us above 6 wins a year for say 6 years? I know we don't have the talent to offset Les's Offense deficiency.
Butch I can concede. He has constantly won 8-9 a year everywhere he went. Skip is alright but not as good as Butch.
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