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re: Since stone and boared say all that matters is gettint to the tourney

Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:47 pm to
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Maybe not in baseball if you guys say there is some next level strategery in play there


Surely, you don't think that us not winning this past year had something to do with not being good enough to win the conference. It is really going to be hard to have discussion in the future if you believe that had anything to do with it.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57691 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:49 pm to
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Maybe not in baseball if you guys say there is some next level strategery in play there, but certainly in both football and basketball.
There is. That's why I kept saying to keep baseball out of it because the mindset towards conference play and conference tournaments is completely different. Especially in a conference like the SEC where there's routinely 4-5 top 10 teams every year.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:49 pm to
I'm not deflecting to Van Horn.

How about we establish a rule here? The peanut gallery can shut the frick up. Especially if they can't come on point.

I have more than defended Mike Anderson. Wanna know how I know? Because to the people who actually fricking matter and draw up contracts, he is standing at #2 in the SEC right now. And I hold the same position.

Evidence? His contract extension.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19005 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:51 pm to
Arkansas wins 6 conference games tops.

I also keep hearing about this rebuilding year, but notice all these one and done type coaches seem to reload every year. They do that with quality coaching. Talent is in Fayetteville. The coaching isn’t.

I can’t wait till Chris Beard drills ol Mike right in the rear next weekend. That seat will get real hot after that.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 9:57 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:54 pm to
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They are the facts like you love to say. Is there more context there?


This is why I said, "in my opinion" and "but I digress."

I make sure to qualify my statements when I can.

Probably shouldn't have made the comment about Oregon State without looking it up, but for the most part I try to maintain integrity with my words.
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:55 pm to
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I have more than defended Mike Anderson. Wanna know how I know? Because to the people who actually fricking matter and draw up contracts, he is standing at #2 in the SEC right now. And I hold the same position. Evidence? His contract extension.


Are you talking about the contract extension that Jeff Long & Co drew up? Yea he’s no longer here, probably because he thought Mike was the 2nd best coach in the SEC
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:57 pm to
It had a lot more to do with the stadium expansion and a losing football program.

More dishonesty.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:59 pm to
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This is why I said, "in my opinion" and "but I digress."

I make sure to qualify my statements when I can.


You seemed to have missed my point. I don't disagree that there is more to it. I'm just pointing out that you can say the exact same thing about the sec record.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:02 pm to
I think he is referring to this in regards to Mike being #2 in the SEC right now.

Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:02 pm to
You caught me, that was a joke. But I have full confidence that a basketball minded AD like Yurachek knows Arkansas under Mike Anderson is not 2nd best in the SEC
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:04 pm to
By the end of this year we’ll be 5th, probably in a few weeks actually.

If Mike gets another year we’ll most likely be 7th or 8th. Thank you for pointing out that upward trajectory he keeps referring to as well
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:05 pm to
Oh no. I agree with your point.

I was just pointing out that that comment was my personal opinion but I am gonna drop that (I digress) because it isn't entirely honest.

I was being honest in telling folks that I was being dishonest, in retort to their own dishonesty.

Sounds like the perfect subject to just drop.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19005 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:05 pm to
He will fall to mid pack after this year, and in life, this year is what matters. When your making 2.2 million nobody cares what you did 2 years ago if it all appears mediocre. Had Mike made some deep tournament run in those 4 years he would get the benefit of the doubt. He hasn’t earned that in my book.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:10 pm to
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By the end of this year we’ll be 5th, probably in a few weeks actually.


In total record or sec record? The only team that I can see doing that is Florida
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:12 pm to
Yeah I was just about to say that isn't really possible for almost all of them.

At worst we drop to 3.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:13 pm to
His winning percentage is going up too.

Last time I looked it up (been awhile back now) his winning percentage was closer to 65% than 67%.

That might not seem like much, but the closer you get that percentage up to 70% the closer you get to titles
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:17 pm to
Yea I meant 4th but also forgot A&M sucks worse than we do this year, next year after Gafford leaves we’ll start tumbling drastically
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:19 pm to
You say that, but there is literally no evidence to suggest it's true.

You're only saying that because you want to be right about Anderson being a poor coach. Except you're wrong.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57691 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:19 pm to
I just can't be happy with the 5th most tournament wins in the conference with the 2nd most appearances. That's underperforming.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:20 pm to
Mike’s winning percentage will not be better at the end of the season than what it is today.

And idk why you’d mention titles when speaking about anything Mike Anderson related, but that’s the funniest thing you’ve ever said
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