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Since stone and boared say all that matters is gettint to the tourney
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:01 pm
Since it's a crapshoot and what not, why is it no one below a 7 seed has ever won the whole damn thing?? (And that was only once). It's almost like teams that win more in the regular season and are top 20 ranked teams who get top 4 seeds are better and win more??? Amazing how that works!! Has mike ever been good enough to achieve a seeding that has a legit chance of winning it all? What 1 time in 8 years? Ifchampionships is what you want the law of averages tell you a guy who keeps getting you a an 11 and 12 seed isnt gonna cut it. Just sayimg
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
And no comment figures 
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:09 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I mean according to BoarEd it's sweet sixteen or bust this year. If he's a man of his word, he'll have no reason not to be disappointed as his own self-professed expectations will have not been met. He may still believe it's possible, but idk of many others that do. This team lacks understanding in too many areas to be consistently successful this year. I don't even think they really "get" the offense yet.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:12 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Ifchampionships is what you want
That'd be cool but I'd settle for just making the tournament 80%~ of the time. March Madness is my favorite sporting event of the year and sucks when your team doesn't get to participate in it.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:12 pm to Drewbie
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I mean according to BoarEd it's sweet sixteen or bust this year. If he's a man of his word, he'll have no reason not to be disappointed as his own self-professed expectations will have not been met.
Stonehog welcher
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Ifchampionships is what you want the law of averages tell you a guy who keeps getting you a an 11 and 12 seed isnt gonna cut it.
He's made the tournament as a 5, 7, and 8 so you're a little off. He's also given us our best seasons since the 90s, so it's not that hard to understand why people are hesitant to call for his head. Don't want to make the wrong hire and then go through another decade of being terrible. We could strike gold and get a coach that takes us back to the final 4, or we could get another Pelphrey. It all comes down to taking that risk and I don't think we should do it just yet.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:15 pm to rockiee
I think I finally figured it out. In baseball if you hit over .300 you’re seen as a really good player.
After this year Mike will have got us into the tournament at a .375 clip which is INSANE from a batting average standpoint. So it’s really ignorant of all of us to think Mike’s been unsuccessful as a coach here
After this year Mike will have got us into the tournament at a .375 clip which is INSANE from a batting average standpoint. So it’s really ignorant of all of us to think Mike’s been unsuccessful as a coach here
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:37 pm to Drewbie
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I mean according to BoarEd it's sweet sixteen or bust this year. If he's a man of his word
Sir, I can promise you I'm a man of my word. However, you're gonna have to get the words right.
What I said (this is from memory, but should be close to verbatim) is that right now I am on the pro Mike Anderson side of the fence. But I wanna see a Sweet Sixteen this season because I think this team can do it.
If they do not, I will move to "on the fence" and if we don't see a Sweet Sixteen NEXT SEASON, I will be ready to move on.
As to the OP, she fails to recognize that Anderson has taken us to the tournament as a 5 seed, and an 8 seed. Bunch of numbers actually except the ones she actually threw out.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:39 pm to Stonehog
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He's made the tournament as a 5, 7, and 8 so you're a little off. He's also given us our best seasons since the 90s, so it's not that hard to understand why people are hesitant to call for his head. Don't want to make the wrong hire and then go through another decade of being terrible. We could strike gold and get a coach that takes us back to the final 4, or we could get another Pelphrey. It all comes down to taking that risk and I don't think we should do it just yet.
This is exactly correct. In every facet.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:41 pm to Stonehog
That's the best explanation any MA fan has given so far. I can see the point but at the same time, it's basketball and having so few players to recruit and develop compared to football, it shouldn't take 8 years to see substantial improvement. Look at how often previous nobodies make deep runs in the tournament. Way, way more often than in football. We've peaked under Mike in all likelihood.
And how can you not see the underperformance every frickin year from Mike? Blatantly obvious, terrible coaching on a regular basis. We don't run offensive plays. We make stupid decisions regularly. We struggle with fundamentals, including flipping free throws. Poor player development. Play up to potential at times and win games we shouldn't, followed immediately by shitting the bed against West Alabama Intermediate U.
There's a ton of coaches that could've done way better with the talent we've had the last 8 years. And probably recruited more talent, too.
And how can you not see the underperformance every frickin year from Mike? Blatantly obvious, terrible coaching on a regular basis. We don't run offensive plays. We make stupid decisions regularly. We struggle with fundamentals, including flipping free throws. Poor player development. Play up to potential at times and win games we shouldn't, followed immediately by shitting the bed against West Alabama Intermediate U.
There's a ton of coaches that could've done way better with the talent we've had the last 8 years. And probably recruited more talent, too.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:46 pm to BoarEd
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As to the OP, she fails to recognize that Anderson has taken us to the tournament as a 5 seed, and an 8 seed. Bunch of numbers actually except the ones she actually threw out.
The end was him just being hyperbolic but he did recognize his 5 seed when he said
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Amazing how that works!! Has mike ever been good enough to achieve a seeding that has a legit chance of winning it all? What 1 time in 8 years?
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:49 pm to dammitbert
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. I can see the point but at the same time, it's basketball and having so few players to recruit and develop compared to football, it shouldn't take 8 years to see substantial improvement.
"Substantial improvement?"
Surely you jest. Arkansas basketball has wandered in the wilderness for 20 fricking years before Anderson got here.
Since then we have moved to #2 in the overall SEC standings, have played in the tournament as a #5 seed, have had one season so far with more wins than the national title team, and have been in the NCAAt 3 of the last 4 years.
To say Anderson hasn't made "substantial improvement" is patently absurd.
The problem is that people want even MORE improvement. And that's cool. It's just my position that we are still trending up and we would be fools to turn our back on this team and this coach.
For the reasons Stonehog laid out. For exactly those reasons.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:51 pm to rockiee
Well, the "bunch of entries as an 11 or 12 seed" is drastically off base.
But you're right.
But you're right.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:59 pm to BoarEd
When a person uses "hyperbole" to undersell one side of an argument, and refuses to actually state the other side (didn't actually SAY we entered as a 5 seed), the end result is dishonesty.
It's an anti Mike Anderson bias shining through.
He never had us in there as an 11 or 12 seed, but he did have us in there as a 5 seed.
To someone who isn't keen on these things, the argument looks, well, worse than it truthfully is.
Dishonesty is par for the course around here though.
It's an anti Mike Anderson bias shining through.
He never had us in there as an 11 or 12 seed, but he did have us in there as a 5 seed.
To someone who isn't keen on these things, the argument looks, well, worse than it truthfully is.
Dishonesty is par for the course around here though.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:01 pm to BoarEd
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When a person uses "hyperbole" to undersell one side of an argument, and refuses to actually state the other side (didn't actually SAY we entered as a 5 seed), the end result is dishonesty.
Sure and I could pull examples of you being hyperbolic. Both sides do it.
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Dishonesty is par for the course around here though.
Agreed, by Anderson lovers and haters
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:03 pm to rockiee
If we ever fire Mike Anderson and blow up War Memorial Stadium what will we ever talk about on this board?
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:04 pm to Hogsfan005
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If we ever fire Mike Anderson and blow up War Memorial Stadium what will we ever talk about on this board?
We never should have fired Bobby?
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:07 pm to BoarEd
quote:Stop stretching this. He padded his record when the SEC sucked. We're at best the 5th best team in the SEC right now.
Since then we have moved to #2 in the overall SEC standings
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:10 pm to Drewbie
I'm not stretching anything there. Those are the facts. And until this season is over you can't truthfully say we are no better than #5 right now.
Stop being dishonest, man.
Stop being dishonest, man.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:12 pm to BoarEd
quote:Says the guy saying we're #2 in the SEC.
Stop being dishonest, man.
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