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re: Sam's Monday Presser... Take a gander!
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:01 am to FayetteNAM
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:01 am to FayetteNAM
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Why are you morons making our disdain for line play about what the job was 4 fricking years ago? He has had 3 full recruiting cycles (4 total), and he can’t put together a serviceable line.
So you are purposefully obtuse or your mother drank while pregnant. Quit conflating the two. This is about Sam having a shitty line, while being “all world line coach”.
Sam was a good stop gap, well the gap has stopped, especially if we get manhandled by every SEC defensive line.
The premelt is so strange to me, there is plenty of time to get upset during the season when/if we lose
Nothing is going to happen to Sam until the end of the year even if we were to somehow lose out, relax
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:36 am to Drewbie
One of the primary, if not THE primary reason, for scheduling 'cupcakes' early is to identify and work on areas of deficiency without too much risk of a loss.
Panic Button ON [OFF]
(For the moment at least)
Panic Button ON [OFF]
(For the moment at least)
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:01 am to rockiee
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The premelt is so strange to me, there is plenty of time to get upset during the season when/if we lose
That’s the thing, I’m not even mad. I just pointed out that our line has been hot bags of diarrhea for 4 years since he got here and before to be honest. We’ve done nothing to address this. Then I said I don’t think Sam is a long term solution.
Everyone said OMG you want Sam fired, no… I want him to do a part of his job that he has neglected for over 3 years and if he can’t do that then he needs to retire.
Everyone got mad I said I don’t like his coaching style. So I said the truth, he is a Houston Nutt that will divide the fanbase if he doesn’t voluntarily step down, which he never will because $6M+ reasons.
I still believe he could pull it together on the line; set us up with a deep bench of talent for the next coach. I never thought he would be a championship coach.
This all started because I and others said our line is trash and he refuses to address any questions when asked about it, then says I’ve been doing this 34 years. Instead of saying yes we are working on it, or anything that could be taken as he is putting a positive set forward.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:07 am to FayetteNAM
Also everyone gets mad when I say KJ isn’t an accurate QB in the swing or intermediate passes. He is only good at the deep passes which is mostly on the receiver getting under the ball and pulling it in.
He will play a tight end at the next level. He saves us because he is more physically gifted than 99% of everyone on the field at any point. Half the runs he does is because he doesn’t know what is going on and just takes off because he know what his legs can do and he can’t be taken down. Everyone will say well it’s an option designed into that play he can take off. Of course, when you have a KJ every play you have is always a QB run if necessary.
He will play a tight end at the next level. He saves us because he is more physically gifted than 99% of everyone on the field at any point. Half the runs he does is because he doesn’t know what is going on and just takes off because he know what his legs can do and he can’t be taken down. Everyone will say well it’s an option designed into that play he can take off. Of course, when you have a KJ every play you have is always a QB run if necessary.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:10 am to WonderWartHawg
Bama fans must be ready to mix Saban because his DBs are not what they’ve been the last 17 years
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:14 am to sugatowng
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Bama fans must be ready to mix Saban because his DBs are not what they’ve been the last 17 years
I agree. Sam and Nick are equivalent. They’ve both shown that they can both win championships. Their teams have both failed at the positions they coach. Definitely the same. Saban has had 25+ years of bad DB play. Every year just terrible.
Dumb arse analogy.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:27 am to FayetteNAM
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That’s some pious bull shite.
and it was said as a joke/ But ok...
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:31 am to FayetteNAM
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Why are you morons making our disdain for line play about what the job was 4 fricking years ago? He has had 3 full recruiting cycles (4 total), and he can’t put together a serviceable line.
So you are purposefully obtuse or your mother drank while pregnant.
Morons, Obtuse, fetal alcohol syndrome. Dude, you are too invested in this argument.
We would be absolutely roasted by the media and hire another Chad if we let Sam go following our past with Bert/Smile/Chard. Sam has gotten us to respectable and yep... We want more. All of us want success to come more quickly. I like Sam, as a person and a coach. He is NOT a great coach however. But again, I am reserving judgment on this season until after BYU and LSU. On how well we play, what has changed, and if he was blowing smoke on not being worried about being a friend to the kids any longer/working on the parts of the game needing improvement during the last 2 rent-a-wins.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:32 am to ArHog
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You can thank the foundation that you've paid your hard earned dollars to for that.
They've wrecked this football program.
then quit blaming Sam... Go after those who you just mentioned. duh!
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:38 am to FayetteNAM
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Everyone got mad I said I don’t like his coaching style. So I said the truth, he is a Houston Nutt that will divide the fanbase if he doesn’t voluntarily step down, which he never will because $6M+ reasons.
Everyone? I haven't seen anger man, I have seen response that do not resonate with you. You are right, everyone else is wrong from their own perspective. Congrats for saying the same thing over and over again, with wording changed a bit. He WILL NOT BE A HDN... See what I did there... Now your convinced, right?
ELLLOOOOELLL!
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This all started because I and others said our line is trash and he refuses to address any questions when asked about it, then says I’ve been doing this 34 years. Instead of saying yes we are working on it, or anything that could be taken as he is putting a positive set forward.
He did both, showed some anger/fire... perhaps directed a bit towards the wrong folks... But i get it, he is frustrated. Then following that, came out with this presser on Monday explaining a bit more and did what you said he should do above. He explained it in his tone.
It doesn't bother me man... I have lit into folks before, thought it over and better worded it later to correct my issues.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:41 am to FayetteNAM
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I just pointed out that our line has been hot bags of diarrhea for 4 years since he got here and before to be honest.
Mostly agree.
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We’ve done nothing to address this.
Here is where you are getting your pushback. There's no magic wand for any coaches, anywhere. Otherwise, we would have 75 national champions every year. To doubt that Pittman is doing everything in his power to bring the best linemen here and coach them up to be the best O line in the country, is to doubt his integrity. I don't think he has done anything that should have fans doubting his integrity.
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Then I said I don’t think Sam is a long term solution.
He never was a long term solution. Nobody hires a coach in their 60's, thinking they are a long term solution. But we are recruiting like we never have before. We are addressing coaching deficiencies, rather than making the mistake of sticking with coaches because they are your friend. We are steadily regaining the respect we lost over the last decade and more.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:42 am to Razorback Reverend
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We would be absolutely roasted by the media and hire another Chad if we let Sam go following our past with Bert/Smile/Chard.
Never said we should fire him. I said I want better line play and if he doesn’t retire, it will divide the fan base. No matter how bad he does there will be a vocal contingent that wants to keep him because they like him as a person.
I want him to do better and win 10+ games. He won’t do that until he addresses how bad the line play has been.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 10:43 am
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:47 am to FayetteNAM
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Also everyone gets mad when I say KJ isn’t an accurate QB in the swing or intermediate passes. He is only good at the deep passes which is mostly on the receiver getting under the ball and pulling it in.
I mean, the dude is currently 15th in the country in completion percentage and 12th in passing efficiency, and he was 12th and 8th in those same categories last year. CJ Stroud, Hendon Hooker, Box Nix, and Caleb Williams were 4 of the 7 above him.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:55 am to HogX
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I mean, the dude is currently 15th in the country in completion percentage and 12th in passing efficiency, and he was 12th and 8th in those same categories last year.
Watch where the ball is. It’s more on the receivers pulling in bad passes.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:34 am to FayetteNAM
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I want him to do better and win 10+ games.
We all want that, including Pittman. But the reality is that we've done it 3 times in 31 years of SEC football, and we were damn close to that in 2021 with Sam. We took a step back last year, so we have a new OC and DC. Our recruiting is better than it has ever been. We are hitting the bumps and potholes we've always had, but we are headed in the right direction. I believe Sam will retire if he sees that we aren't.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:06 pm to troyt37
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We all want that, including Pittman. But the reality is that we've done it 3 times in 31 years of SEC football, and we were damn close to that in 2021 with Sam. We took a step back last year, so we have a new OC and DC. Our recruiting is better than it has ever been. We are hitting the bumps and potholes we've always had, but we are headed in the right direction. I believe Sam will retire if he sees that we aren't.
And the reality is I am not even saying anything that any non Arkansas media members aren’t saying on every podcast. That if we get the line figured out, we could win the west. No ones skill players are leaps and bounds better than us. They quite a few have us on defensive skill players, but if we can protect a QB we at least have a chance with a shoot out.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:43 pm to FayetteNAM
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And the reality is I am not even saying anything that any non Arkansas media members aren’t saying on every podcast. That if we get the line figured out, we could win the west. No ones skill players are leaps and bounds better than us. They quite a few have us on defensive skill players, but if we can protect a QB we at least have a chance with a shoot out.
Agreed, but the lines, offensive and defensive, are the slowest groups to improve on just about any football team. The only time that isn't the case is when the stars align and you are able to recruit 2 or 3 generational talents to play on the same line within a year or two.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:45 pm to FayetteNAM
quote:Why are you pretending like we didn't just have a top 10 rushing offense last year? Seems like something you can't really do without putting together a good line.
Why are you morons making our disdain for line play about what the job was 4 fricking years ago? He has had 3 full recruiting cycles (4 total), and he can’t put together a serviceable line.
The dude has exceeded expectations more times than not and y'all are acting like he's destroying the program. Shut the frick up.
O-line has been the main question mark since spring camp. None of this is new. It comes with the territory when replacing over half of your starters. We all watched the game. We all know there's room for improvement. All this skyscreaming is ridiculous, though.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:08 pm to Drewbie
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The dude has exceeded expectations more times than not and y'all are acting like he's destroying the program. Shut the frick up.
In every area but one he has improved and you are acting like an ostrich, pretending you didn’t see us get pushed around by one of the worst schools we will play all year long for the 3rd year in a row.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:15 pm to FayetteNAM
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In every area but one he has improved and you are acting like an ostrich, pretending you didn’t see us get pushed around by one of the worst schools we will play all year long for the 3rd year in a row.
Dude. Everyone, everyone acknowledges that we need better play from the O line. Honestly, we need better play from the D line too. But trying to warm Pittman's seat up, when half of us were saying "frick it let's just shutter the football program" 3 years ago, is just so Arkansas.
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