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Pittman ain't playin around in the 'crootin game

Posted on 8/27/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22705 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 7:57 pm
New offers, including consensus no. 1 prospect in the nation from Georgia.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Bert would cringe and retreat to the corner with all that speed and athleticism.

These are 247 ratings:




Makai Lemon | ATH | Los Alamitos (Calif.) | 4-star, No. 8 nationally

Jurrion Dickey | ATH | San Jose (Calif.) Valley Christian | 4-star, No. 82 nationally

Joenel Aguero | ATH | Danvers (Mass.) St. John's Prep | 4-star, No. 43 nationally

Justice Haynes | RB | Roswell (Ga.) Blessed Trinity | 4-star, No. 45 nationally

Suntarine Perkins | RB | Raleigh (Miss.) | 4-star, No. 39 nationally

Rashid Williams | WR | Pittsburg (Calif.) | 4-star, No. 77 nationally

Daniel Demery | WR | Dallas (Texas) Parish Episcopal | 4-star, No. 52 nationally

Brett Norfleet | TE | Saint Charles (Mo.) Francis Howell | 4-star, No. 16 nationally

Pearce Spurlin | TE | Santa Rosa Beach (Fla.) South Walton | 4-star, No. 64 nationally

Kadyn Proctor | OL | Des Moines (Iowa) Southeast Polk | 4-star, No. 31 nationally

Amir Herring | OL | West Bloomfield (Mich.) | 4-star, No. 95 nationally

Nolan McConnell | OL | Stafford (Va.) Colonial Forge | 4-star, No. 42 nationally

Alex Birchmeier | OL | Ashburn (Va.) Broad Run | 4-star, No. 29 nationally

Chase Bisontis | OL | Ramsey (N.J.) Don Bosco Prep | 4-star, No. 74 nationally

Anthony James | DE | Wylie (Texas) East | 4-star, No. 46 nationally

Cameron Lenhardt | DE | Ramsey (N.J.) Don Bosco Prep | 4-star, No. 10 nationally

Daniel Harris | DE | Melbourne (Fla.) Palm Bay | 4-star, No. 38 nationally

Jayden Wayne | DE | Tacoma (Wash.) Lincoln | 4-star, No. 17 nationally

Justin Benton | DE | Covington (Ga.) Newton | 4-star, No. 99 nationally

Lebbeus Overton | DE | Alpharetta (Ga.) Milton | 4-star, No. 1 nationally

Jalen Rambert | LB | Greenville (S.C.) Powdersville | 4-star, No. 76 nationally

Tre Edwards | LB | Chula Vista (Calif.) Mater Dei | 4-star, No. 13 nationally

Drayk Bowen | LB | Merrillville (Ind.) Andrean | 4-star, No. 61 nationally

Caleb Herring | LB | Murfreesboro (Tenn.) Riverdale | 4-star, No. 97 nationally

Daiquan White | CB | Fairburn (Ga.) Creekside | NR

Braxton Myers | CB | Plano (Texas) John Paul II | 4-star, No. 86 nationally

Cole Martin | CB | Chandler (Ariz.) Hamilton | 4-star, No. 68 nationally

Antonio Robinson | CB | Miami (Fla.) Florida Christian School | 4-star, No. 98 nationally

Jamel Johnson | CB | Arlington (Texas) Seguin | NR

RJ Jones | S | Mission Hills (Calif.) Bishop Alemany | 4-star, No. 90 nationally

Derek Williams | S | New Iberia (La.) Westgate | 4-star, No. 62 nationally

Rahmir Stewart | S | Philadelphia (Pa.) Imhotep Institute | 4-star, No. 11 nationally

Caleb Downs | S | Hoschton (Ga.) Mill Creek | 4-star, No. 14 nationally
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36748 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Yet it's still wise to allocate your time to perfecting the layups vs taking half court shots
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21124 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 8:38 pm to
I'm pleased he is putting more effort in the state of Texas. No excuse why we shouldn't be more a contender in that state.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:09 pm to
Plenty of reasons and data as to why you shouldn't focus primarily on that state, however.

Feels good to be recruiting the southeast again. For being so low T, chaggy focused primarily on states that begin with the letter T.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21124 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
Texas is top five in the nation of producing division one talent each year. Primarily focused or not, it is not smart to just avoid it.

Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi and Arkansas is historically where we get our recruits from.

We have recruited Georgia and found some success but I seriously doubt we will ever make a dent in Georgia or the Southeast. Too many powerhouse power five teams that have a lot of control in those areas. I give props for Sam for being aggressive but it will take many years and a change in reputation for things to go our way. Arkansas is viewed as trash and not a winner. So many of these recruits won't bother visiting here because they see better options.

For a school to recruit the Southeast and nationwide, it needs a strong reputation in winning tradition. Alabama is a very good example of this. They get recruits in 25-27 states. We don't have that luxury and haven't done so in 30 years.

Sam has recruited Oklahoma more than the previous coaches and is taking advantage as Oklahoma recruits Texas much more. Most of the other recruits come from the seven states that I mentioned before.

Can Sam snag some big time players from other states? Yes but it is very unlikely right now. He isn't spending a lot of time in some areas of the country that he knows has little chance of coming here. His main focus will still will be areas closer to home that he knows he will have a better chance of landing.

We have to win with what we have and we will. Continue to build our reputation up where we are viewed as a strong presence in the SEC.

When that happens then it will be much easier getting recruits thousands of miles from home.

Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
1867 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 3:52 pm to
Recently offered Brett Norfleet, a DE out of STL ranked #16 in the 2023 class. Brett is pretty excited about it.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 4:29 pm to
Got some CBs for Ketron Jackson today too
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21124 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 4:39 pm to
Sam is recruiting Kansas City and St. Louis. We didn't really recruit those areas very much for some reason.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 8/30/20 at 9:36 pm to
Bert and Sam recruited STL, they signed some highly rated online busts back then. Petrino recruited MO well outside of DBG. He signed Wingo from up there.

Petrino and Bert expanded the recruiting grounds of Arkansas to include Missouri and Tulsa/OK and did quite well in getting players from this areas. Morris narrowed Arkansas recruiting presence to a perimeter around Arkansas, that isn't a good strategy for success.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22705 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:39 am to
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some CBs for Ketron Jackson today too





Major crystal balls flipping that way from the biggest names at 247.

We must have finally gotten a decent bag man.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17714 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:13 am to
Don't understand why you guys get so hung up on location.

Morris' problem is he recruited guys off paper and a system. He didn't actually check and make sure they were football players.

Bert (first few years) and Petrino were really good at this, hell even Nutt. The difference between Petrino and the other two is the guys would develop substantailly when they got here.

Bert and Nutt had some big time guys here but that was likely attributed more to personal drive than coaching.

Petrino was just a badass at both IDing "football" players and then developing them.

Hopefully Pittman can be that guy as well.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21124 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:02 pm to
Location doesn't matter. We live in the 3rd largest country in the world. Don't make excuses and go find your players. Do what is necessary.

Chad's problem wasn't recruiting. It was the buy in from the upperclassmen on his first day. His practices were confusing and his game management was worse than Nutt. Also didn't help that he was a smartass.

Bert was decent at recruiting but his problem was his alcoholism conflicted with his coaching abilities. 30 minutes before a game would start, he always had a paper cup in his hand. He was most likely recovering from a hangover.

He didn't have the work ethic needed to win here. The only game I saw him actually coach was the 2016 Florida game. But that was only because he took a lot of heat from the thrashing of the Auburn game. Then he lost the last two games of the season that should have been wins. That was crucial as going 9-4 shows more progress and he might not have bombed the next year.

Nutt still holds the worst recruiting class in school history, the 2000 class. It was full of academic issues, problems with the law or complete busts. Some never showed up on campus. It was bad enough that Nutt gave an apology. It was so bad that Nutt panicked and took redshirts off of freshmen in 2001 and one of those was Matt Jones.

Nutt was lazier at recruiting than the others and the only things that saved him were Matt Jones and later Darren McFadden. Without those two, he gets fired after the 2002 season.

Petrino was the best talent evaluator that we had in years. He was very hands even on defense. No one knows what would happen if he didn't get fired. But he wasn't the same coach after he was fired than the one before.
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