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re: Pardon my French, but if Lykes doesn't go full retard

Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Billy Blanks
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:42 am to
Toney and JD only had 2 real fouls. The rest were mythical.

Also, how was that a shooting foul on I believe Lykes? He wasn't shooting.

Also, TBS refused to show replays last night. Very odd.

The turning point was in fact Lykes moronic shot. Do we still lose? Maybe. But being down 12 there really hurt. We came out with a hot minute or two in the second. If we go in down 6-9 we cut it to about 2-4 early. So glad Lykes is gone.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:47 am to
Smith is 6-7 but played bigger than his height. Williams needed some help.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:57 am to
They missed enough point blank shots at the rim to win the game.

Not a lack of threes, free throws or mid range shots, but tough contested shots at the rim. Duke made more of these tough contested shots.

Yes some of these were missed due to uncalled fouls, but you are not going to get those calls against Duke, so you have to make the shot of take it stong enough to force the whistle.
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 10:59 am to
Still don’t think smith makes a difference last night.

We got Baylor again with front court instead of back court.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:00 pm to
Muss blamed Lykes but it doesn't seem like we put any emphasis on maximizing our expected point advantage over an opponent going into the half. We never bother to get a 2 for 1. It's just not one of our core principles so it's not surprising that one of our players would make a mistake like that at the end of the half.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Still don’t think smith makes a difference last night.

We got Baylor again with front court instead of back court.
He certainly could't have hurt. I hadn't watched much Duke so I was surprised at how big they played.

It's been awhile since I've seen us lose a big game because the opponent's front court was so dominant. Duke was overwhelming and it wasn't a bunch of stiffs like you'd see in a game 25 years ago. That's quite a collection of athletes they have.
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:08 pm to
4 first round draft picks.

That was the best team I’ve seen all year, hands down.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:12 pm to
Getting beat by UNC on K’s last home game night lit a fire under that team and it will carry them to the National Title. IF UNC can get by St Peters, Duke will try to beat them like a drum.

They wanted to do that to us last night but thankfully we fought enough to keep it less than 20.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:13 pm to
It makes you wonder what the hell the people that do this for a living were doing all year if they watched Kentucky and thought "this is a better team than Duke". Those teams aren't even vaguely comparable. It's no great wonder why Jimmy Dykes works for ESPN and is no longer on the bench.
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:20 pm to
Still have no idea how that happened. They got absolutely smoked.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 1:33 pm to
UNC isn't some type of great disciplined team but they have guys that can straight up get buckets. That's how you beat this Duke team. You're not going to keep them from getting theirs. You've gotta just score more points.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:12 pm to
They had a 20 plus lead on Baylor in the second half and almost lost the game. The coaching was bad for NC in that game, they needed Baylor to screw up for them to win.
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:34 pm to
The issue to me was offensive rebounding. They scored lots of points off 2nd chance shots and it made all the difference. Sure, if we were getting foul calls on our end that we normally get it would have made a difference. But Duke was the better team, they made the shots they had to make and out rebounded us.

I would have liked to see us more aggressive with the 3's. Once it was obvious we weren't getting calls at the rim we could have shifted. Notae, Wade, and Stan to a degree were shooting the ball well.
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:39 pm to
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Yea we’re short like a body or two but that didn’t feel like the real problem. We still rebounded okay down the stretch and Williams wasn’t nearly as dominant in the second half.


We had 8 offensive rebounds. Duke had 27 defensive rebounds. Rebounding was a huge problem.

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It’s shot makers that We’re severely lacking.


We shot 42% last night. That’s plenty good enough to win if you can rebound and keep the other team out of the lane.

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We turned them over a ton. They just had Roach, Moore, Griffen and Banchero having their way getting high % shots


They drove the lane because they knew our only size down low in Jaylin would have to either leave Williams to help, or they got an easy bucket over an undersized guy in the lane. Both worked for them last night. Duke had 40+ points in the paint last night. Only attempted 10 three point shots because they didn’t need the outside shot.

Posted by dchog
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:28 pm to
After looking at the stats, offense wasn't a problem which could easily be blamed but the rebounding was bad. Arkansas needs more size and that would be a problem against athletic bigs which Arkansas hasn't faced until Duke exploited that problem.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:29 pm to
They only had 7 offensive rebounds if I remember correctly.

Lack of size did help them to know they could get in the paint, but it otherwise didn't hurt us that bad.

I don't know what our offensive rebound percentage was against top teams, but I would think 20% is close to normal.

Edit: Duke's offensive rebound percentage was definitely too high... Nearly 30%, and theirs nearly always led to points
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 6:33 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:05 pm to
No way we win that game with Duke shooting how they did. We'd have had to shoot lights out and made about 50% of the lay ups we missed. I think if we could've got back to even, we may have gotten them to screw up. We let them get and stay comfortable and it's even easier to make shots then.

Honestly, I felt like we had more of a shot against Baylor last year while watching the game. No much more though. It is what it is. We didn't quit though and took a patchwork team to the elite 8. That's amazing. Was hoping we could catch Duke on an off night. If we keep getting there and getting better, it'll happen. Muss has done great work turning this program around. Two elite 8's in consecutive years and the number 2 class coming in with who knows what transfers? Arkansas isn't just on the map again, we are BACK!!
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:24 pm to
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They only had 7 offensive rebounds if I remember correctly.


They didn’t miss much. They had 46 points in the paint. 27 defensive rebounds.

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Lack of size did help them to know they could get in the paint, but it otherwise didn't hurt us that bad.


They had multiple tip outs because of size and also us getting rebounds and not going back up with the ball and passing it back out high or turning it over. Jaylin had so many shots altered because of their size down low.

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I don't know what our offensive rebound percentage was against top teams, but I would think 20% is close to normal.

Edit: Duke's offensive rebound percentage was definitely too high... Nearly 30%, and theirs nearly always led to points


Yes, they killed us.

They crashed the glass with 6’10” and 7’+
They altered so many of our normally east shots. I’m not saying that we need to go all bigs, but Jaylin needs a counter part that’s 6’8” or so on the floor with him and we need someone 6’8”-6’10” that can come off the bench and give them a break.

The biggest difference in the Day/Mayberry/Miller early 90’s teams and the 94 & 95 teams were the twin towers in Robinson and Wilson. Corliss was the PF 6’7” scorer but then Nolan went and recruited two highly touted bigs to control the paint and alter shots.


Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:08 pm to
I'm confident muss is learning this. I've seen it beat us two years in a row when someone matches our guard play. We find one of those big guys in the portal and watch the frick out
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 8:12 pm to
Let me preface by saying Duke was the better team and was nailing contested shots like few college teams do. Not mad at all about losing to them

I didn't really like screwing around the last 2-3 minutes like the game was over. I agree it felt like it was over but a trip to the final 4 was actually not crazy far out of reach. If duke doesn't want to play, fine. Pop a 3 and call a time out down 6. Crazy things happen in the tournament
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 8:16 pm
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