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Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:51 am to YumYum Sauce
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:51 am to YumYum Sauce
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Petrino probably got the most talented athlete with the highest upside that our flimsy NIL could afford.
$750k for a loser
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:10 am to ArHog
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$750k for a loser
I think the starting rate for a D1 QB in the power 5 is 500k this season.. at least thats what the radio guys are saying.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:40 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:One guy is dialing up open routes and the other guy is watching them go by. You tell me.
Does Green get the blame or does Petrino
I should note that I don't think Green is a completely lost cause. I think we all see what Petrino sees. Lamar Jackson wasn't anything special in year 1 under Petrino either. He didn't even throw for 2000 yards and had a 12-8 TD-INT ratio. Then he threw for 3500 yards and 25+ TDs in back to back years.
I think if we really want Green to be the guy, we have to just bite the bullet and deal with the fact that this is going to be a multi-year project. The issue is that line of thinking is in conflict with the people who just want to blow it all up.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:18 pm to Drewbie
Pittman doesn't need a muti-year project at QB that failed at Boise State. He needed a QB that was better developed at a previous school that is a more accurate with his throws, will not get so easily flushed out of the pocket and not stare down just one WR all game. Teslaa was open all day last Saturday.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:24 pm to Drewbie
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The issue is that line of thinking is in conflict with the people who just want to blow it all up.
I'm suggesting there's not much to blow up. Are we any better off than we've been? Pittman is definitely more capable than Chad but his record doesn't reflect that consistently....
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:28 pm to dchog
I seriously doubt you're getting a developed QB ready to hit the ground running in a new system out of the portal for 750k. You may not even get that for a couple million.
Either we start paying significantly more NIL or we get used to developmental projects, IMO.
Either we start paying significantly more NIL or we get used to developmental projects, IMO.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:33 pm to oklahogjr
quote:I guess we disagree. I think there's a lot of potential here. Our defense is already a million times better than it used to be. I'd rather we let Petrino stay longer than 5 minutes to try and get things going before calling it quits.
I'm suggesting there's not much to blow up.
I get that's a weird approach for a coach technically on year 5, but I think we all know Pittman isn't the one stirring this drink. I care very little about Pittman at this point. He doesn't have a "system". His "system" is his coordinators, and as far as that goes we're in year 1 offensively.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:35 pm to oklahogjr
When a program like Arkansas gets too many players from the portal every year then it's going to blow up each year.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:56 pm to Drewbie
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I get that's a weird approach for a coach technically on year 5, but I think we all know Pittman isn't the one stirring this drink
Pittman can't even assemble a damn OL, much less find a legit QB.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:57 pm to ArHog
The QB wasn't his choice, nor was he in charge of how much he could spend for one.
I will say there's really no excuse for the O-line recruiting or lack thereof. That's the one major blackspot.
I will say there's really no excuse for the O-line recruiting or lack thereof. That's the one major blackspot.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:35 pm to Drewbie
Jalen Hurts transferred to Oklahoma from Alabama and started his first season. His NIL was worth $2 million.
Brock Vandagriff transferred from Georgia and is a starter in his first year at Kentucky. His NIL deal is worth $924,000.
Spencer Rattler transferred from Oklahoma and started his first year at South Carolina back in 2022. His NIL worth was $779,000.
Jayden Daniels transferred from Arizona State to LSU and started his first season back in 2022. His NIL worth was $2.2 million.
Quinn Ewers transferred from Ohio State to Texas and was a starter in his first season back in 2022. His NIL worth is $1.7 million.
Taylen Green NIL deal is worth $425,000.
NIL deals for starting QBs in the SEC.
LSU Garrett Nussmeier $1.5 million.
Texas Quinn Ewers $1.7 million.
Georgia Carson Beck $1.8 million.
Tennessee Nico Lamaleava $1.9 million.
Oklahoma Jackson Arnold not available.
Florida Graham Mertz $822,000.
South Carolina LaNorris Sellers not available.
Vanderbilt Diego Pavia $348,000.
Texas A&M Connor Weigman not available.
Ole Miss Jaxson Dart $2 million.
State Blake Shapen not available.
Kentucky Brock Vandagriff $924,000.
Alabama Jalen Milroe $2.5 million.
Auburn Hank Brown not available.
Missouri Brady Cook $1.2 million.
Brock Vandagriff transferred from Georgia and is a starter in his first year at Kentucky. His NIL deal is worth $924,000.
Spencer Rattler transferred from Oklahoma and started his first year at South Carolina back in 2022. His NIL worth was $779,000.
Jayden Daniels transferred from Arizona State to LSU and started his first season back in 2022. His NIL worth was $2.2 million.
Quinn Ewers transferred from Ohio State to Texas and was a starter in his first season back in 2022. His NIL worth is $1.7 million.
Taylen Green NIL deal is worth $425,000.
NIL deals for starting QBs in the SEC.
LSU Garrett Nussmeier $1.5 million.
Texas Quinn Ewers $1.7 million.
Georgia Carson Beck $1.8 million.
Tennessee Nico Lamaleava $1.9 million.
Oklahoma Jackson Arnold not available.
Florida Graham Mertz $822,000.
South Carolina LaNorris Sellers not available.
Vanderbilt Diego Pavia $348,000.
Texas A&M Connor Weigman not available.
Ole Miss Jaxson Dart $2 million.
State Blake Shapen not available.
Kentucky Brock Vandagriff $924,000.
Alabama Jalen Milroe $2.5 million.
Auburn Hank Brown not available.
Missouri Brady Cook $1.2 million.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:01 pm to dchog
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LSU Garrett Nussmeier $1.5 million. Texas Quinn Ewers $1.7 million. Georgia Carson Beck $1.8 million. Tennessee Nico Lamaleava $1.9 million. Oklahoma Jackson Arnold not available. Florida Graham Mertz $822,000. South Carolina LaNorris Sellers not available. Vanderbilt Diego Pavia $348,000. Texas A&M Connor Weigman not available. Ole Miss Jaxson Dart $2 million. State Blake Shapen not available. Kentucky Brock Vandagriff $924,000. Alabama Jalen Milroe $2.5 million. Auburn Hank Brown not available. Missouri Brady Cook $1.2 million.
quote:so what you’re saying is we has a case of da poors
Taylen Green NIL deal is worth $425,000.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:12 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
As usual we are right with our buddies Vandy
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:08 pm to Drewbie
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I guess we disagree. I think there's a lot of potential here. Our defense is already a million times better than it used to be. I'd rather we let Petrino stay longer than 5 minutes to try and get things going before calling it quits. I get that's a weird approach for a coach technically on year 5, but I think we all know Pittman isn't the one stirring this drink. I care very little about Pittman at this point. He doesn't have a "system". His "system" is his coordinators, and as far as that goes we're in year 1 offensively.
This basically is year one, with the offense, as you said. Petrino’s first year here last time was a 5 win season before he got the players to run his offense successfully.
For me to keep this experiment alive is to see progress this year without the quit we saw last year and interest from recruits. No need to start all over with another project if Petrino is coming back. I don’t see him moved to head coach, he’s basically that without the title now and people aren’t happy.
In 5 years Sam has been bowl eligible 4 times and is 2-0 in bowl games. The covid year tcu back out. He’s had 1 bad year but that road schedule was brutal for anyone. He took steps and fired Enos mid season so he showed he wasn’t going to settle for bad results. Oh well, this season isn’t over yet so we’ll see what happens. I’m not giving up yet…
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:33 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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so what you’re saying is we has a case of da poors
Carson Beck would get mauled behind that vaunted Titboss OL
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:30 pm to ArHog
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Carson Beck would get mauled behind that vaunted Titboss OL
No one would be talking about beck if he wasn’t at Georgia. And we don’t have Georgia talent at oline, who could imagine that?
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:48 pm to ArHog
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Carson Beck would get mauled behind that vaunted Titboss OL
Too bad we don’t have the money to buy a vaunted OL
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:01 pm to Clark14
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Petrino is coming back. I don’t see him moved to head coach, he’s basically that without the title now and people aren’t happy.
Pittman is the HC, not Petrino. There would be a big difference in how the program would be run if Petrino was the HC.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:31 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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Pittman is the HC, not Petrino. There would be a big difference in how the program would be run if Petrino was the HC.
Like what? I’d be interested to hear.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 6:42 am to hawgfaninc
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Too bad we don’t have the money to buy a vaunted OL
They weren't worth a frick before nil.
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