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Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:28 am to Poker_hog
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:28 am to Poker_hog
quote:do you really not remember where we were 24 months ago?? 6-6 was a dream season at that time
The incentives for the first contract were a joke. Bonus for going 6-6….
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Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:20 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I would give him a 10 year guarantee contract at $1 million per year. Than I would have a $1 million bonus for every game won.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:23 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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do you really not remember where we were 24 months ago?? 6-6 was a dream season at that time
Morris was historically bad. I didn’t think 6-6 deserved a bonus at the time but I for sure think it’s inappropriate now.
Sam was brought in to stabilize the program. He’s done that. I still think he’s a high floor low ceiling type of coach.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:29 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Meanwhile Briles has quietly become the leading candidate for the Miami OC spot because we’re slow playing a raise for him.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:30 am to Poker_hog
All buyouts on the university end if they are fired for cause, or inability to recruit/win. Should be 2 years of pay.
But we should probably just get used to Jimmy Sexton telling Yuracheck, that Pittman really wants every job in the country.
But we should probably just get used to Jimmy Sexton telling Yuracheck, that Pittman really wants every job in the country.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:32 am to TheCheshireHog
I’ve heard the Miami money is a house of cards based on Medical industry booming through Covid.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:34 am to TheCheshireHog
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Meanwhile Briles has quietly become the leading candidate for the Miami OC spot because we’re slow playing a raise for him.
Yeah, I’m not melting yet, but I’m going to melt TF down if we lose Briles to a lateral OC job because we played contract frick-around and didn’t move quickly enough.
And I say that as someone who’s been critical of Briles, but KJ’s progress and development into a very efficient QB is largely due to KB. We need to retain him for continuity.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:39 am to Razorback Reverend
Pittman has proved that he can take a bottom of the barrel program and make them very respectable. He hasn't proven he can take a respectable program and make them great yet imo.
He deserves more money but I think the 7 million mark should be reserved till he can prove the latter, unless you are making some package deal with way more money for assistants as well.
He deserves more money but I think the 7 million mark should be reserved till he can prove the latter, unless you are making some package deal with way more money for assistants as well.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:41 am to Feral
This is my thought process as well. The work Briles as done with Franks and KJ deserves a very healthy raise. He’s the best offensive kind that we’ve had on campus in a decade. Hunter and Sam should have had a new contract on his desk the day after Lebby got paid, at the latest.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:43 am to RazorHawg
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For the longest time I've griped about our assistant coach $$ pool being where we should invest if we are serious about our program.
We haven't been serious for 30 years. We're always looking for a discount.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:44 am to DaleDenton
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The problem isn't paying them to coach, the issue is always what it costs to get rid of them when you no longer want to pay them to coach.
This is Pittman's last fbs hc job, he has no leverage for a huge buyout.
This.
I like Pittman and hope we pay what it takes to keep him, provided it’s within reason and/or commensurate with the market and his value.
However, we are or were paying two other football coaches over $20 million in dumb buyouts. We need to be careful.
I also have PTSD from Bert’s extension after the 2014 season, which sounds eerily similar to what I’m hearing now. Granted, the situation that Pittman inherited was *much* worse and his turnaround has been better and has come with fewer WTF losses, but we were saying and hearing similar things after 2014 about “heading in the right direction.” As a Hog fan, I’m fully aware that all glory is fleeting and am well-accustomed to assuming that the boogeyman is right around the corner the minute we taste success.
I really don’t want to be sitting here in a few years questioning why we gave him that massive buyout with the record he had like we did with Bert when it became apparent in 2016 that it wasn’t going to happen.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:52 am to Porker Face
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Remember all that tough talk from Hunter when he first came in about coaching salaries being out of hand? He said he was going to do something about it. Time to belly up to the bar on that Hunter. Talk is cheap
I can’t believe people are still citing Yurachek’s chest thumping about how losing games should be considered “with cause” in terminations.
It was empty pandering bullshite then and now. Nothing more.
Yet people cited it at the end of the Morris era like we were going to fight him on his buyout. We weren’t and didn’t…because it was just talk.
The last time we were active litigation with a former head coach over refusing to pay his buyout, we had to hire a career OL coach because no one wanted our job.
Yurachek knows that the quickest way to alienate coaching candidates is to get a rep for cutting pennies on paying buyouts.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:53 am to TheCheshireHog
Hopefully they’ve been working on a raise for Kendall and it just hasn’t been releases to the public yet. If we lose Kendall over money it will be really hard for to continue rooting for this program because it would prove the people in charge really don’t care about wins and losses.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:19 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Sam bought himself a lot of favor being an Arkansas guy and spouting off loyalty and loving the job.
Jimmy Sexton is the exact opposite of that. Love Sam to death, but he lost a lot of that favor when he brought on Sexton and let him immediately ask for 7 mill a year.
His contract was extended last year due to covid. He should have at least waited another year.
Jimmy Sexton is the exact opposite of that. Love Sam to death, but he lost a lot of that favor when he brought on Sexton and let him immediately ask for 7 mill a year.
His contract was extended last year due to covid. He should have at least waited another year.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 10:20 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:27 am to Feral
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Yeah, I’m not melting yet, but I’m going to melt TF down if we lose Briles to a lateral OC job because we played contract frick-around and didn’t move quickly enough.
I assume any offer non ridiculous will be matched/beat. He gets these recruits in like we think, he will have a head coaching gig after next year.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:42 am to Feral
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I really don’t want to be sitting here in a few years questioning why we gave him that massive buyout with the record he had like we did with Bert when it became apparent in 2016 that it wasn’t going to happen.
I was out on Bert before he started he could have walked after 2014 and I’d have been fine with it, find someone else, that didn’t want to start stupid traditions like throwing the A.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:47 am to King
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His contract was extended last year due to covid. He should have at least waited another year.
This is going to happen every year man. Sexton does this every year, good or bad. And since he represents every coach in the SEC just about all he has to do is say Ole Miss has been contacting me about Pittman. Kiffin is talking about going to Bama because Saban is retiring. All 3 represented by Sexton so that’s his thing.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:07 am to FayetteNAM
Call his bluff. You think they want Sam Pittman if Kiffin leaves? You think their fanbase would support that after this season and a Sugar Bowl appearance? Negative.
Talk to Sam privately. Give a good faith raise and make sure he has all the resources he needs to retain assistants and recruit. Then he can give Sexton a chunk of cash he didn't earn and keep his job.
Sooner or later some AD's have to have the balls to tell Sexton to piss off.
Talk to Sam privately. Give a good faith raise and make sure he has all the resources he needs to retain assistants and recruit. Then he can give Sexton a chunk of cash he didn't earn and keep his job.
Sooner or later some AD's have to have the balls to tell Sexton to piss off.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:13 am to King
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but he lost a lot of that favor when he brought on Sexton and let him immediately ask for 7 mill a year.
Billy Napier is getting $7M per year, not having coached a single game in the SEC.
Over two seasons, Pittman has exceeded expectations and our trajectory looks good. Recruiting is on the rise. Match the $7M and be happy we have what we have with the future looking stable and bright.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:15 am to SmackoverHawg
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Sooner or later some AD's have to have the balls to tell Sexton to piss off.
Doubt it. Athletic department’s revenues are like $100 million now. Most of that comes from football. Good coaches are still probably undervalued vs the revenue they help generate.
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