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re: Let’s say they keep Bert:
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:49 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:49 pm to Stonehog
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Yeah like 3 weeks ago. If we go 6-6 then that means we finished 4-1 in our last 5 games with all of our best players out with injury. Plus a win over a top 25 team, either LSU or State. No way he gets fired if that happens, because we'll make a bowl after starting 2-5 and so many other schools will be hiring.
So he should be praised for getting us out of a hole he put us in in the first place? I understand that we faced the toughest part of our schedule during that stretch, but the beat down in SC showed that the team was (is) just flat out bad, and would've lost to a ton of other teams worse than Alabama, TCU, and Auburn. Also, I assume you're including AA as one of our best players injured, but Bert's the reason he's hurt in the first place. It wasn't some freak accident that got him hurt - the whiffs in recruiting on the OL led to AA getting pummeled and injured. I agree that Hayden, Cornelius, Pulley, and Ragnow are unlucky. However, injuries are a part of the game. Every single program every single year has good players that go down. It's not an excuse unless it's exceptionally severe.
I also don't buy that this is an exceptionally bad year to be hiring. Every year has bigger programs than us open. Assuming A&M doesn't can Sumlin, there won't be any Texas programs better than us open (Tech could possibly open up), and they're more in direct competition for us with coaches than Florida and Tennessee.
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:55 pm to Porcine Human
Sometimes it seems like we jump through hoops to make a point that's right in front of us. If he loses one more game, it will be impossible for him to end this season with a record of above .500 for a five year span. That really is indefensible, and I can't think of a single football program that pretends to be nationally competitive that would settle for those results and come back for 6ths.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:59 pm to Porcine Human
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So he should be praised for getting us out of a hole he put us in in the first place?
If he gets us from 2-5 to 6-6 then yeah he deserves some credit. We all thought the team had quit in the South Carolina game. That obviously wasn't a permanent situation because we just had the biggest comeback in school history. I realize it was Ole Miss but if the team had quit then we wouldn't have won on Saturday.
Let's see what happens with the rest of the season, if we go 6-6 and make it to Shreveport I'll be down there getting drunk, gambling, and supporting the Hogs. I certainly won't be sulking and whining like a lot of folks here because we weren't bad enough to fire the coach.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:09 pm to Stonehog
quote:I am. Common sense tells you to look at the whole damn schedule. Football starts in September. He sucked too much at the beginning sorry Bret you had your shot.
Try to use some common sense instead of getting so emotional.
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:14 pm to Stonehog
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ARE our best players out
quote:if that's what you think and we won without them then what's berts excuse for sucking donkey dick at the beginning of the season with them in. Bekiebe it or not it makes us look really weak when we get blown put 4 times in a season (scar, tcu, alabama, auburn) and keep that coach. He has alreadyvoroven he can't get it done. There's 12 games in a season I don't care how good we look after week 6 of fatass sucks a chode the first 6 weeks every year. What about this concept is so hard for you to understand?
Yes.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:17 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Jesus Christ dude are you like 9 years old?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:18 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
At the end of the 3rd quarter of the SC game the score was 34-10.
#NeverForget!
#NeverForget!
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:22 pm to Stonehog
quote:great comeback. Really solid points you provided. Well done. Bravo
Jesus Christ dude are you like 9 years old?
Eta: your saying we should keep bert and consider it a GREAT turnaround if he goes 4-1 beating the juggernauts in ole miss who have an interim head coach and death penalty looming, coastal Carolina, an fcs school, Missouri who might have the worst fbs defense in the country and 1 of either lsu coached by a shrimpboat captain or mississippi fricking state??? Gtfo
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:25 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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if that's what you think and we won without them then what's berts excuse for sucking donkey dick at the beginning of the season with them in. Bekiebe it or not it makes us look really weak when we get blown put 4 times in a season (scar, tcu, alabama, auburn) and keep that coach. He has alreadyvoroven he can't get it done. There's 12 games in a season I don't care how good we look after week 6 of fatass sucks a chode the first 6 weeks every year. What about this concept is so hard for you to understand?
So all the typos and dick imagery are you NOT being emotional, right?
My points were pretty clear. If we finish 6-6 he won't get fired. No amount of donkey dicks will change that.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:27 pm to Stonehog
quote:thats not what I'm arguing. If he goes 6-6 we may keep him but you said we should keep him if he does that which is just not true considering the weak weak weak competition we are about to face
we finish 6-6 he won't get fired. No amount of donkey dicks will change that.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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your saying we should keep bert and consider it a GREAT turnaround if he goes 4-1 beating the juggernauts in ole miss who have an interim head coach and death penalty looking, coastal Carolina, an fcs school, Missouri who might have the worst fbs defense in the country and 1 of either lsu coached by a shrimpboat captain or mississippi fricking state??? Gtfo
Chill out man. Take some deep breaths.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:30 pm to Stonehog
quote:I'm just glad you finally admitted you're wrong and I'm right
Chill out man. Take some deep breaths
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:32 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
You think we should fire the coach for going 6-6?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:17 pm to Stonehog
Other than Bama and Georgia (who we don't play) the SEC is down this year. Real bad down.
And we're going 1-7 or maybe 2-6 in our coaches 5th year.
Nuff said. Not firing him is insulting to him, the program and every Razorback fan who ever wore a red shirt. The product on the field is LOUSY. Special teams play, Defense, offensive line play, receivers are slow and don't get open...need I go on?
There is nothing working right now. Yeah the kids played hard and didn't quit against an Ole Miss team that was wearing them out...but Ole Miss isn't good. They aren't good at all. They have ONE SEC win also...over Vandy.
Sadly, if we win out, we'll probably be stuck with this again next year. Maybe they'll get the poor guy in an AA program somewhere and we'll get the coach we hired back.
And we're going 1-7 or maybe 2-6 in our coaches 5th year.
Nuff said. Not firing him is insulting to him, the program and every Razorback fan who ever wore a red shirt. The product on the field is LOUSY. Special teams play, Defense, offensive line play, receivers are slow and don't get open...need I go on?
There is nothing working right now. Yeah the kids played hard and didn't quit against an Ole Miss team that was wearing them out...but Ole Miss isn't good. They aren't good at all. They have ONE SEC win also...over Vandy.
Sadly, if we win out, we'll probably be stuck with this again next year. Maybe they'll get the poor guy in an AA program somewhere and we'll get the coach we hired back.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:21 pm to Rzrbackguy
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Other than Bama and Georgia (who we don't play) the SEC is down this year. Real bad down.
Four teams in our division are in the top 25.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:40 pm to Stonehog
quote:in year 5? Absolutely. This is the university of Arkansas board.the Arkansas state board is somewhere else that must be what your looking for if you're satisfied with mediocrity which is exactly what 6-6 is.
You think we should fire the coach for going 6-6?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:49 pm to Stonehog
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You think we should fire the coach for going 6-6?
Umm. I do. In year 5 a .500 record is unacceptable. By suggesting we should hang on to a coach for being the very definition of mediocre you are saying that we should just accept the fact that we can't do any better than this frickin clown show who has lost to juggernauts like Toledo, Texas Tech, Rutgers, and has only orchestrated one single fricking come from behind win in FIVE YEARS.
Absolutely we fire him at 6-6. 100%. This guy fricking sucks. He is the worst coach in Arkansas history.
But it doesn't matter because he isn't gonna win six anyways. This is a pointless argument.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:55 pm to Stonehog
If Bret would not have crapped the bed a few times in 2015 and 2016, a 6-6 year would be fine in 2017.
It's the things he did in those seasons that will get him fired more so than this season.
It's the things he did in those seasons that will get him fired more so than this season.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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in year 5? Absolutely.
Dan Mullen went 5-7 in year 8. You're saying State should have fired him?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:13 pm to Rhames
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Bret would not have crapped the bed a few times in 2015 and 2016, a 6-6 year would be fine in 2017.
It's the things he did in those seasons that will get him fired more so than this season.
All of this. He has fricked up too many times to get away with another shite year. You can't win 15 games over 2 years with over 16 NFL players on your team. That is under achievement at its finest.
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