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Posted by UltimateHog 
on 6/23/22 at 10:35 pm to cubsfan5150
on 6/23/22 at 10:35 pm to cubsfan5150Left a natty chance and easily first rd for a 2nd rd pick.
Coulda made 2nd rd money in NIL alone.
But I guess he just wanted to go pro and get started.
Coulda made 2nd rd money in NIL alone.
But I guess he just wanted to go pro and get started.
Posted by SmackoverHawg on 6/23/22 at 10:36 pm to cubsfan5150
on 6/23/22 at 10:36 pm to cubsfan5150Nice. I was afraid he got bad guidance. Mock drafts are shite. Funny that they drafted Jalen and Jaylin Williams. That won't be confusing.
Posted by cubsfan5150 
on 6/23/22 at 10:37 pm to UltimateHog
on 6/23/22 at 10:37 pm to UltimateHogHe was by no means guaranteed to be a first rd pick next season
Posted by UltimateHog on 6/23/22 at 10:37 pm to cubsfan5150
on 6/23/22 at 10:37 pm to cubsfan5150He'd have to really fall off.
With the team we'll have just very very hard to see him not going first and probably lottery.
With the team we'll have just very very hard to see him not going first and probably lottery.
Posted by SmackoverHawg on 6/23/22 at 10:39 pm to UltimateHog
on 6/23/22 at 10:39 pm to UltimateHogquote:
Left a natty chance and easily first rd for a 2nd rd pick.
Never know. Injuries/illness/poor play or not standing out as much with so much talent around him. Don't mean that in a bad way, but there is only one ball. Will be able to develop faster by focusing on BB full time and not having to go through motions of being in college.
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Coulda made 2nd rd money in NIL alone.
Maybe/Maybe not. Was any ponied up and guaranteed?
Can't question his decision at pick 34.
Posted by UltimateHog on 6/23/22 at 10:41 pm to SmackoverHawg
on 6/23/22 at 10:41 pm to SmackoverHawgOh you definitely can.
Portis and Gafford benefited greatly from returning versus 2nd rd grade the prior year.
JWill just wanted to go pro and get started. So be it. Him and Chet can talk about the Sweet 16 game.
Portis and Gafford benefited greatly from returning versus 2nd rd grade the prior year.
JWill just wanted to go pro and get started. So be it. Him and Chet can talk about the Sweet 16 game.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine on 6/24/22 at 7:32 am to UltimateHog
on 6/24/22 at 7:32 am to UltimateHogJWill leaving definitely lowered my expectations for next year. I think we all need to expect that it could take this team a while to click
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Posted by STLhog on 6/24/22 at 8:22 am to UltimateHog
on 6/24/22 at 8:22 am to UltimateHogLeague min is over 1M. If he makes a roster, he made the right choice.
Posted by JeffLebowski on 6/24/22 at 2:42 pm to STLhog
on 6/24/22 at 2:42 pm to STLhogAgreed. Coming back doesn’t guarantee a huge jump in draft status and there’s always the risk that other players bump above him. Seems like he was pretty methodical with the process and can’t fault him for making this decision. Will miss him and he was an excellent ambassador for our school and basketball program.
Posted by gohogs141 on 6/25/22 at 11:34 am to UltimateHog
on 6/25/22 at 11:34 am to UltimateHogWasn’t Gafford still a 2nd round pick? I remember some Hog fans thinking after his freshman year he could/should have developed into a lottery pick
Posted by admiralduckwad on 6/25/22 at 11:50 am to gohogs141
on 6/25/22 at 11:50 am to gohogs141quote:
Wasn’t Gafford still a 2nd round pick? I remember some Hog fans thinking after his freshman year he could/should have developed into a lottery pick
Can't believe Mike Anderson didn't develop him and convince him to stay another year
Posted by admiralduckwad on 6/25/22 at 12:02 pm to admiralduckwad
on 6/25/22 at 12:02 pm to admiralduckwadWorth noting that jaylin was the 88th ranked prospect and ended up 34th in the draft after 2 years. Moody was the 46th ranked HS student and ended up the 14th pick after a year. Isaiah Joe was the 170th ranked HS recruit and went from being on nobody's board to the 49th pick after Muss got here.
Gafford was the 39th best HS athlete and shook out as the 38th pick. Portis started as the 17th best HS recruit and ended up the 22nd pick after two years.
The development Muss is providing really shows if you dig into the numbers. Especially when comparing to other major programs. Schools like Duke and Kentucky have historicallly landed more but they aren't necessarily improving their draft stock there. In most cases it is weakening due to lack of PT. Muss is improving them and now he is actually landing some one and done types as a result
Gafford was the 39th best HS athlete and shook out as the 38th pick. Portis started as the 17th best HS recruit and ended up the 22nd pick after two years.
The development Muss is providing really shows if you dig into the numbers. Especially when comparing to other major programs. Schools like Duke and Kentucky have historicallly landed more but they aren't necessarily improving their draft stock there. In most cases it is weakening due to lack of PT. Muss is improving them and now he is actually landing some one and done types as a result
This post was edited on 6/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by oklahogjr 
on 6/25/22 at 1:12 pm to UltimateHog
on 6/25/22 at 1:12 pm to UltimateHogquote:
easily first rd for a 2nd rd pick.
I don't understand this logic. Jaylin is a great team player, very athletic for this size, but he in no way looks like a lottery pick NBA big man.
Posted by admiralduckwad on 6/25/22 at 2:53 pm to Hmanhunt
on 6/25/22 at 2:53 pm to HmanhuntAgreed. He 100% made the right decision going
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