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Posted on 11/4/24 at 8:17 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Posted on 11/4/24 at 8:17 pm to The Sultan of Swine
HY set up the contract for bonuses to start at 6 wins.
Then gave the guy a raise.
Then gave the guy a raise.
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 8:50 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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6.5 million and all we get is complaints about how we can’t afford Ole Miss level talent
Embrace mediocrity, soak it all in.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:46 pm to Clark14
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Yet when morris was coach folks said they’d love to have a coach who could get 7 wins
Consistently......peaking at 7 wins after not making a bowl before is better than chaggy but still not acceptable. 6 is the floor or should be. Accepting less is accepting a bad coach. Pittman is a bad coach, you can tell in a few different ways like penalties, game management, donation earning, roster management, consistent drama amongst players, etc.
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We don’t have a clue what we want……haha
We want 6 wins as the floor with potential for bigger seasons every 4ish years. That's historically who we are....
Posted on 11/5/24 at 5:19 am to Arksulli
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we could beat the brakes off Texas and then turn around and lose by 40 to a stupendously average at best Missouri.
We basically did that very thing in 2022 when we beat the shite out of Ole Miss (it was 42-7 in the 3rd quarter) and then lost to a 5-6 Mizzou team the very next week that wasn’t good.
The inability to handle success and refocus a team after a win is a hallmark of the Pittman era.
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 5:20 am
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:18 am to Feral
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The inability to handle success and refocus a team after a win is a hallmark of the Pittman era.
I can't, and won't, argue with you.
I don't hate Pittman like some folks do, I'm glad he pulled the program out of the dumpster that Choad left it in, but this is his ceiling. It doesn't matter who his coordinators are. It doesn't even matter how much talent his teams have.
Pittman is who he is. Give him a pat on the back, send him to his luxury lake home, and let Sam make appearances around the state.
We are stuck in neutral right now.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:33 pm to oklahogjr
quote:preach brotha!
Accepting less is accepting a bad coach. Pittman is a bad coach, you can tell in a few different ways like penalties, game management, donation earning, roster management, consistent drama amongst players, etc. quote:We don’t have a clue what we want……haha We want 6 wins as the floor with potential for bigger seasons every 4ish years. That's historically who we are.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 2:10 pm to Feral
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The inability to handle success and refocus a team after a win is a hallmark of the Pittman era.
He’s not the only coach we’ve had who exhibited that trait. Since the 60s I’ve seen this and it’s almost like it’s meant to be for our program.
I’m not making excuses just making an observation. I believe no team takes us for granted so we’ll get a good effort from whoever we play and there’s no day off. We have a reputation historically of knocking teams off we have no business beating and opposing coaches stress that I would imagine.
Maybe we’ve historically overachieved for the most part until recently. Oh, just thinking realistically out loud.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:40 am to Clark14
Its not that I'm satisfied....its that I think a coaching search is the last thing this program needs right now.
We need Ole Miss type NIL Money. There's really nothing horribly wrong with PIttman and Petrino is a master with talent.
We won't likely get it...we'll end up going 7-5 this year, keeping Pittman. Fans will act like typical Arkansas fans and complain 100 times more than they donate...and we'll rinse and repeat the mediocrity of the past 25 years.
We need Ole Miss type NIL Money. There's really nothing horribly wrong with PIttman and Petrino is a master with talent.
We won't likely get it...we'll end up going 7-5 this year, keeping Pittman. Fans will act like typical Arkansas fans and complain 100 times more than they donate...and we'll rinse and repeat the mediocrity of the past 25 years.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:30 am to Rzrbackguy
Ole Miss has lost two games already and likely to lose another this Saturday.
Arkansas needs an upgrade in coaching not more money to waste.
Arkansas needs an upgrade in coaching not more money to waste.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 1:10 pm to dchog
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Ole Miss has lost two games already and likely to lose another this Saturday.
And they are doing it with more money and what is considered a much better coach. Maybe we just play in an extremely tough conference.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:17 pm to Clark14
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And they are doing it with more money and what is considered a much better coach. Maybe we just play in an extremely tough conference.
THis argument that we "need a better coach" without the money is ridiculous to me. C'mon folks... Good Lord!
Pittman has shown over and over he can hang with Lane with the save talent, or even perhaps a bit less. Look at the recruiting rankings, look at the results until this season. THis season, Ole miss hit the jackpot by going all in on NIL...
Our fans man, Unbelievably stupid. I am NOT saying keep pittman, but I also don't expect much different results without a massive upgrade in NIL and Promotion. If I blame anyone, it is HY... not the coaches.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:32 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:I'm assuming you mean head to head. Pittman is nowhere near kiffens success as a coach...
Pittman has shown over and over he can hang with Lane with the save talent, or even perhaps a bit less. Look at the recruiting rankings, look at the results until this season. THis season, Ole miss hit the jackpot by going all in on NIL...
quote:is kiffens record at ole miss.....
41–17
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28–29
Sam Pittman's record at Arkansas.....
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Our fans man, Unbelievably stupid.
Agreed
I don't think anyone is saying beat Alabama every year but Oklahoma State bad team.... Liberty was also not a great team comparatively....Pittman can't help but drop ooc games and is barely .500 let's stop acting like a he's been anything but meh...
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 8:35 pm
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