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Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:14 pm to Jack Ruby
Explain to me how Vic Koening is “a much better coordinator” than Chavis. Yes he has a good defense this year but I don’t see how you can look at his resume and say he’s better than Chavis.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:42 pm to Porcine Human
very disappointed if true. 
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:44 pm to pioneerbasketball
Meh. Could be much worse. I bet we get good recruits on name alone.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 6:18 pm to ArmyHogs
There probably isn't anyone alive who can impart more knowledge to Morris about what it takes to have a successful defense in the SEC. i just have my doubts as to whether Chavis is capable of it anymore, especially at Arkansas.
I'm just not sure how we make up the recruiting deficit that he creates. Ten years ago maybe he pulls some recruits, but I can't see him doing it now.
It's not a Gruden type, Venables or disappointment situation, but this was my biggest fear. We got the guy we needed for offense, but if our defense runs in the 60's, we still won't win anything of significance.
I'm just not sure how we make up the recruiting deficit that he creates. Ten years ago maybe he pulls some recruits, but I can't see him doing it now.
It's not a Gruden type, Venables or disappointment situation, but this was my biggest fear. We got the guy we needed for offense, but if our defense runs in the 60's, we still won't win anything of significance.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 6:52 pm to troyt37
What were we ranked defensively the last two years? Curious.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:00 pm to momentoftruth87
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What were we ranked defensively the last two years? Curious.
I can look it up for you, but it weren't good. Your point?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:04 pm to momentoftruth87
104 this year, 75 last year. Total defense. Could change with bowl games. What's the relevance?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:06 pm to troyt37
It was bad. Like 90 something last year (worst year in our history), and even worse this year. Lol
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:07 pm to troyt37
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I can look it up for you, but it weren't good. Your point?
104 & 75 as the message above me said.
So, 60 doesn't sound too bad to me. Coming from a guy who said he should be retired, sitting in a chair, eating chimichangas.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:09 pm to momentoftruth87
60 something at a place that lands top ten classes year after year.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:13 pm to BoarEd
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60 something at a place that lands top ten classes year after year.
but everyone says he didnt recruit and we know Sumlin brought in a lot of offensive talent that im sure influenced those classes.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:15 pm to momentoftruth87
I don't think it matters much because I don't think we hired him.
And that's a good thing because I don't think he would be a good fit here. We need someone who DOES recruit. For starters.
And that's a good thing because I don't think he would be a good fit here. We need someone who DOES recruit. For starters.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:16 pm to ArmyHogs
as I said earlier....
I am good with chavis. Name alone will being in some cruits. Look..with a quick strike offense it is a depth game. Easier schematically and have rested defense. Just make sure the line is solid and corners.
Listening to Fitz Hill earlier, and Trey Biddy as well.. "there are not many DC's at all that are good coaches, schematically and recruit well. What Chavis would bring is a vast amount of SEC Defensive knowledge and a big name known to recruits"
He has been a DC for higher powered offenses as well.
ANyone looks bad up against Venables, but he wouldn't be absolutely terrible.
John THompson anyone?
I am good with chavis. Name alone will being in some cruits. Look..with a quick strike offense it is a depth game. Easier schematically and have rested defense. Just make sure the line is solid and corners.
Listening to Fitz Hill earlier, and Trey Biddy as well.. "there are not many DC's at all that are good coaches, schematically and recruit well. What Chavis would bring is a vast amount of SEC Defensive knowledge and a big name known to recruits"
He has been a DC for higher powered offenses as well.
ANyone looks bad up against Venables, but he wouldn't be absolutely terrible.
John THompson anyone?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:18 pm to momentoftruth87
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So, 60 doesn't sound too bad to me.
aTm's worst recruiting class in the last 6 years was #18. Not sure what our best was, but I don't think it was that high. If you get #60 out of a six year average of #14 classes, what do you get with a 6 year average of say #25?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:19 pm to troyt37
Pretty much where we have been already.
ETA: Which stands to reason if you look at what, say, Robb Smith was able to do here when he happened to have some NFL talent on his squad.
Take away a few key players and Arkansas looks like Arkansas.
Robb Smith is a damn good defensive coordinator.
ETA: Which stands to reason if you look at what, say, Robb Smith was able to do here when he happened to have some NFL talent on his squad.
Take away a few key players and Arkansas looks like Arkansas.
Robb Smith is a damn good defensive coordinator.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:24 pm to troyt37
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aTm's worst recruiting class in the last 6 years was #18. Not sure what our best was, but I don't think it was that high. If you get #60 out of a six year average of #14 classes, what do you get with a 6 year average of say #25?
Regardless of the ranking of those classes, those players were soft. That's on the head coach.
They also had some pretty bad attrition. I haven't actually looked at it in detail but I know that was an issue for them.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:25 pm to Razorback Reverend
Chavis and Morris just seem like oil and water to me. Morris seems enthusiastic, energetic, motivated, and hungry. Chavis seems the opposite in all respects.
I'd rather have a young, unknown, arse kicker of a DC, who is competent, and knows he has to go out and get the players to get where we need to be.
I'd rather have a young, unknown, arse kicker of a DC, who is competent, and knows he has to go out and get the players to get where we need to be.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:28 pm to Porcine Human
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Regardless of the ranking of those classes, those players were soft. That's on the head coach.
Heard that a few times already. They managed to push our shite in every year, before and after Chavis.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:29 pm to troyt37
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Heard that a few times already. They managed to push our shite in every year, before and after Chavis.
Yeah and we sucked. What's your point?
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