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Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:19 am to
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:19 am to
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That ship sailed when we started blaming interim coaches for the program's problems.



"The games have to mean something"

(Unless your buyout is $30mil, then you get multiple years before the games mean something, like a normal coach.)
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:56 am to
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:41 am to
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The one area on the team I'd feel good about talent-wise was the O-line. The rest needs to be revamped.


I’m supportive of the Silverfield hire, but I’m not happy with his moves at OL coach and not retaining Mateos.

Offensive line was arguably the strength of the team last year.
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:46 am to
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The portal has shown us there’s no need to wait and see. If he’s not winning in the fist 2 seasons he needs to go. We’ve got plenty of evidence to show that with the portal coaches should be able to be competitive immediately. 6 win minimum next year should be the standard.


This program is doomed. Why couldn’t I have been a fan of a college that brought enjoyment and accolades, like Alabama or LSU?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:53 am to
It’s only doomed because we continue to make shite hires. It’s not hard to go out and hire a winner. They tend to win. Like yeah it’s always some what of a crap shoot, but if you’ll just hire people based on whether they win or not, you’ll tend to have more success than not. Especially when you start to look at things like do they win against superior talent? Do they win without top resources? If they check those boxes it’s even easier. Hiring a football coach isn’t rocket science. But we have dumb fricks on the hill ( Hunter) who are inept at making a coaching hire.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:40 am to
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That ship sailed when we started blaming interim coaches for the program's problems.


Let’s go back to the true problem, Yuracheck.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:42 am to
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This program is doomed. Why couldn’t I have been a fan of a college that brought enjoyment and accolades, like Alabama or LSU?


One program was irrelevant until a coach got there that knew how to work its magic and knew what kind of players to get and set up a system that 2 of the next 3 coaches used to get players and win championships.

The other was saved from a death spiral by the same coach.

All this goes back to the thread I made months ago. What kind of program are we? What is our identity?
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:02 am to
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One program was irrelevant until a coach got there that knew how to work its magic and knew what kind of players to get and set up a system that 2 of the next 3 coaches used to get players and win championships.

The other was saved from a death spiral by the same coach.

All this goes back to the thread I made months ago. What kind of program are we? What is our identity?
The reality is hard to ignore: we’ve become an administratively incompetent program that’s lowered the bar so far, bowl eligibility is treated like a win—even as the bowl system itself is fading.

There’s no strategic fundraising, no understanding of how to identify or support the right coach, and absolutely no charisma in the brand.

We don’t know how to generate national attention unless it’s through embarrassment.

And when it comes to pitching big donors? There’s no vision, no story, no leadership that inspires confidence.

This isn’t just about football—it’s about identity. Programs that win consistently know who they are. They have a culture, a system, and leadership that understands how to build and sustain success. We don’t. We’re stuck in a cycle of reactive decisions, short-term fixes, and lowered expectations.

Until the people at the top commit to real change—starting with defining who we are and what we stand for—we’ll keep drifting. The blueprint exists. Other programs have followed it. But it takes courage, clarity, and competence to execute it.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:25 am to
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Until the people at the top change


Fixed your typo. Otherwise a solid post!
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:40 pm to
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And when it comes to pitching big donors? There’s no vision, no story, no leadership that inspires confidence.


This is the biggest problem.

The minute NIL without restrictions hit HY should have been in every big money donors office saying lets go win a Natty in football. It's a free for all.

Instead he doubled down on Titman and played a victim complaining about the system and how it wasn't right.

Joey freakin McGuire who could barely break .500 in his previous 3 years at Tech is in the playoff because boosters paid to get them there.

Thanks HY

This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Fixed your typo. Otherwise a solid post!


I think the problem is everyone not in the Athletic Department sees the sports as taking away from the school, instead of a great team increasing the enrollment of the classes leading to the funding of their departments.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:42 pm to
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But we have dumb fricks on the hill ( Hunter) who are inept at making a coaching hire.
Step one is getting rid of this bozo. What was the point of firing Pittman if the "fully committed" hire was another position coach turned HC that no one else wanted? We moved laterally at best and set millions of dollars on fire to do it. Utterly baffling.

Just look at him bumbling all over the place trying to explain the CFP process. He can't even bullshite his way through explaining the committee selection criteria. Can you imagine him trying to sell a coach with options on program structure and NIL approach? It's no wonder no coach worth a damn wants to work for him. The dude is a repellent of excellence and competence.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 3:08 pm
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8949 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:43 pm to
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We moved laterally at best and set millions of dollars on fire to do it. Utterly baffling.


Not to mention the fact that we passed up massively cheaper options to do it
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:16 am to
Would require seriousness. Like hiring Bob Chesney that has won at every level.
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:21 am to
I'm sure Chesney is a fine coach but I think part of the hype surrounding him is people hoping for the next Cignetti. He may do well but the chances of a coach being able to replicate Cignetti's results seems pretty small.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8950 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:52 am to
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I'm sure Chesney is a fine coach but I think part of the hype surrounding him is people hoping for the next Cignetti. He may do well but the chances of a coach being able to replicate Cignetti's results seems pretty small.


I think people are hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, but he has also won at every level.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 11:17 am to
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Cignetti

Is the best hire maybe ever, Indiana basically won the billion dollar lottery.

But it has made other similar schools believe winning that lottery isn’t that hard
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2885 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 11:22 am to
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Would require seriousness. Like hiring Bob Chesney that has won at every level.


I’m not a HY fan but let’s be honest. Cignetti had 1 offer, that was from IU. Same with Chesney. I’d have loved to hired him here but nothing is guaranteed.

Whether it’s college or NFL there are a lot more misses than hits when it comes to hiring coaches.
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