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re: Briles sucks.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:01 pm to ArHog
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:01 pm to ArHog
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I've tried to tell myself to give Briles a chance, but I don't like his play calling. We are rarely ever fluid on offense and that's due to his calls.
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Sadly we'll have to put up with him for another year before Sam tells him to get lost. There's absolutely no reason to go fast when you shite away a first down play.
Dumb takes are dumb. We aren’t fluid because Briles wants to go fast and Pittman says no. Slow it down milk to clock, do the Houston Nutt/Bert bullshite.
Kendall will most likely be gone after this year. We will get a shite OC like Chaney and Pittman will be gone within 2-3 more years.
I like Pittman but running an offense that two others have tried and failed with here isn’t smart.
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:05 pm to dchog
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He is a better fit for a conference that values finesse offenses like the Big 12. I see a conflict of interest between a team that wants to run the ball more but wants to go fast and pass. I don't know what kind of offense Sam wants but it is confusing. But I think his inexperience as a head coach is showing as he is experimenting on what works or doesn't work.
Another lame take. Kendall’s offense is a like Bobby’s but faster. Think Tyler Wilson if he was more mobile. They he wants to have quick passes or a quick run by the quarterback/running back when they are on their heals. He isn’t straight up bombs away every play. It is a bunch of 7 yard hurry up, causing fake injuries offense though.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:48 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
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Briles does suck.
The problem with our fanbase is you’re either a god or suck. Briles does a lot of good things. He’s obviously not perfect but overall we have a more than competent offense, and he’s working with a first year qb.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:57 am to FayetteNAM
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Briles wants to go fast and Pittman says no.
Link? First hand knowledge? You guessing?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:33 am to The Sultan of Swine
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The problem with our fanbase is you’re either a god or suck. Briles does a lot of good things. He’s obviously not perfect but overall we have a more than competent offense, and he’s working with a first year qb.
This. There is a lot of small things that need correction. For instance, about 3 times a game KJ does a little fake handoff, then immediately takes off. Somewhere, someone needs to let KJ or Briles know that the fake handoff draws the linebackers in, so just a second or two of delay with the ball up as if you might throw it will have the linebackers taking a step back, opening lanes to run. We don't do that, so more often than not the play is stuffed.
There's just a lot of little stuff that should fix by next year, I just don't know what losing all these super seniors is going to do. I do think that KJ should be reading better than he is, and understanding that if they are blanketing Burks, someone should be coming open. I know of half a dozen pass plays that just didn't happen, because there was no real progression in KJ's reads. I understand that our OL doesn't allow for more than 1 or 2 reads, but he should know whether Burks is being doubled before the ball is snapped, and move on.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:06 am to troyt37
I love Sunday morning playcallers..... I was a HS OC for 21 years..... if it was easy everyone would do it.
Maybe some of you guys should apply since you obviously have all the answers. All Briles did was have one of the top offenses in the country at multiple stops. Not to mention we had nearly 700 yards last week. Bottom line is offense played well enough to win and the defense was terrible. Predictable and soft.... period. .... but yeah... blame Briles.
Maybe some of you guys should apply since you obviously have all the answers. All Briles did was have one of the top offenses in the country at multiple stops. Not to mention we had nearly 700 yards last week. Bottom line is offense played well enough to win and the defense was terrible. Predictable and soft.... period. .... but yeah... blame Briles.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:15 am to ElDawgHawg
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All Briles did was have one of the top offenses in the country at multiple stops. Not to mention we had nearly 700 yards last week. Bottom line is offense played well enough to win and the defense was terrible. Predictable and soft.... period. .... but yeah... blame Briles.
Thats pretty much my summary when I started the thread.
Briles is putting up yards and points.
Odom is allowing more points by play soft everywhere.
Then everyone comes on and blames Briles because he didn’t score 40 because that would have got us a win.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:16 am to FayetteNAM
Totally agree with you!
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:22 am to ElDawgHawg
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I love Sunday morning playcallers..... I was a HS OC for 21 years..... if it was easy everyone would do it.
Maybe some of you guys should apply since you obviously have all the answers. All Briles did was have one of the top offenses in the country at multiple stops. Not to mention we had nearly 700 yards last week. Bottom line is offense played well enough to win and the defense was terrible. Predictable and soft.... period. .... but yeah... blame Briles.
If you are including me in that group, you aren't comprehending me at all. I think Briles gets a little cute at times when he doesn't really need to, but is very good overall.
The offense did not play well enough to win when it counted. When we had to score to make it a game, we went 3 and out, if I'm not mistaken. Until that point, the defense had done everything needed to win the game. Going 3 and out, down 8 I think, with 9-10 minutes in the game kind of cooked our turkey, don't you think? Why would that be on the defense?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:28 am to ElDawgHawg
Yeah it’s sad that people are shitting all over briles when even though Saturday wasn’t the offense’s best performance I thought the offense still outplayed the defense. You take out the strip sack td and it’s not even close.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:45 am to troyt37
No one has issues with Briles and the offense. It is the wrong play call at the wrong time that is frustrating.
The defense did enough to win the game but the offense is what lost the game. 23 points isn't good enough to win any games in this conference.
The defense did enough to win the game but the offense is what lost the game. 23 points isn't good enough to win any games in this conference.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:53 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Yeah it’s sad that people are shitting all over briles when even though Saturday wasn’t the offense’s best performance I thought the offense still outplayed the defense. You take out the strip sack td and it’s not even close.
Our defense made Auburn punt 4 times. Their defense made us punt 3 times. We turned it over on downs 3 times, and coughed up a fumble for a TD. Not too sure you are looking at this right.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:58 am to troyt37
quote:neither of these statements say good things about either defense. The key here is they got critical 4th down stops. Whether you want to blame briles or the offense for that or give credit to auburns D idk. Pittman seems to think on the option we ran on 4th that we would have got it if he pitches the ball but I haven’t watched the game again to know if it was for sure there or not. The 4th and short run play idk how you could disagree with the call. It’s 4th and half a yard and we couldn’t stop them from getting penetration. That’s just on the line. If briles would’ve taken a shot there or ran a rollout and not got it people would be talking about how “ he got cute” and why didn’t he just hand it off. Damned if you do damned if you don’t
Our defense made Auburn punt 4 times. Their defense made us punt 3 times.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:00 pm to dchog
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It is the wrong play call at the wrong time that is frustrating.
Yes, but Jefferson's inability to make reads and decisions that help the team are what is killing us. We've had more than a few WTF calls, especially in short yardage situations, but I don't think we are going to get there this year unless KJ starts reading defenses better. It was nice to see a TE get involved a little bit, we need more of that, and for the life of me, I can't understand why it is that we can't throw some screen passes to running backs.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:08 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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neither of these statements say good things about either defense. The key here is they got critical 4th down stops. Whether you want to blame briles or the offense for that or give credit to auburns D idk. Pittman seems to think on the option we ran on 4th that we would have got it if he pitches the ball but I haven’t watched the game again to know if it was for sure there or not. The 4th and short run play idk how you could disagree with the call. It’s 4th and half a yard and we couldn’t stop them from getting penetration. That’s just on the line. If briles would’ve taken a shot there or ran a rollout and not got it people would be talking about how “ he got cute” and why didn’t he just hand it off. Damned if you do damned if you don’t
If you give the offense 4 downs to get 10 yards multiple times and they fail, I don't see how that isn't on the offense. You have to rack up those failures on the offensive side of the ball as well. It was really, really not a good game for the offense, but I'm not putting it on Briles. We just aren't there yet, although I think KJ should be better than he is showing.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:14 pm to troyt37
K.j is still learning and that handcuffs the offense. That isn't a bad thing but expected from a first year starter.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:24 pm to troyt37
I’m not saying the offense didn’t have a a bad day. But my take away from the game was that the offensive line more than the play calling let us down
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:26 pm to dchog
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K.j is still learning and that handcuffs the offense. That isn't a bad thing but expected from a first year starter.
yes, he is a first year starter, but he is a redshirt sophomore in his second year of this offense. He should be getting really proficient in this offense, and just isn't.
Briles could help him with some screens, and more involvement of the tight ends, and more quick slants (as long as he doesn't throw fastballs) like we saw after the fumble TD. I don't know why we find something that works, and then stop doing it.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:55 am to troyt37
I will say going back to the 2 point playcall against Ole Miss.... didn't love it but I'm sure they went into the game with 2-3 plays they liked for a 2 point play. Given the feel of the game I would have liked to have seen some sort of run option since Ole Miss hadn't stopped it. That said, if Green had run his route at the proper depth and stuck the top of the route instead of rounding it that would have been and easy toss and catch. Instead he never separated from the defender and was too shallow.....
But again, not having been part of the planning and prep I'm not going to spend too much time second-guessing one play.
My only major issue with how our offense plays is KJ's dead feet in the pocket. That's bad foot mechanics... he's a stone statue... and why he sometimes gets brought down before he can get going IMO.
That needs to be a major coaching point for him come offseason.
But again, not having been part of the planning and prep I'm not going to spend too much time second-guessing one play.
My only major issue with how our offense plays is KJ's dead feet in the pocket. That's bad foot mechanics... he's a stone statue... and why he sometimes gets brought down before he can get going IMO.
That needs to be a major coaching point for him come offseason.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:01 am to troyt37
we are 21st in the nation in total offense
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