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re: Arkansas Football 2023 Recruiting Thread **WR Dazmin James Commits**

Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:27 pm to
Ouch. Taking someone out of Oxford, has to sting for Ole Miss.
Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Fayetteville (Ga.) Whitewater defensive lineman Stephen Johnson has committed to the Arkansas Razorbacks. The 6-4, 310-pounder went public with his decision on Sunday after wrapping up an official visit in Fayetteville (Ark.).

Johnson is Arkansas' third commitment of the weekend, joining defensive back RJ Johnson and linebacker Alex Sanford. Johnson chose the Hogs over Georgia Tech, Maryland, Liberty, Vanderbilt, and others.

The Georgia native was recruited to Arkansas by first-year defensive line coach Deke Adams.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:59 pm to
It seems to me that the staffs approach is to go after guys that are being recruited by schools like ole miss, miss state, Georgia tech, Texas tech, Oklahoma state etc. basically high level 3 star low 4 star guys with talent and potential that we can actually get to commit then build them up in stead of chasing high 4 and 5 stars that end up committing elsewhere forcing us to settle for players with their best offer being troy and Louisiana tech. But the really high level guys that are in state or are close by and have ties we lock down to top out the class. I think that is a good strategy until we turn into a perennial 9/10 win team
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:39 pm to
He is a better recruiter than what the recruiting sites give him credit for. Arkansas isn't regarded as a powerhouse like it is in baseball and soon to be in basketball. This is why they can't get the better players to visit. When was the last time a top 50 overall recruit took a visit here? I don't remember.

He is a different type of recruiter than someone like Nutt who gave offers to recruits after everyone else offered. Instead of doing his own evaluations, he panics with last minute offers. That same panic leads to commits from academic risks that other schools have backed off. Sam is the opposite of that. He evaluates these recruits and offers some before other schools know that recruit exists. He doesn't go after highly offered recruits because they show no interest in Arkansas and they currently will not visit. It is a waste of time and so he goes after recruits that are overlooked and need some development. This could get Arkansas out of that 7/8 win barrier and into that winning 9 win category each year.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah that’s what I was getting at too. People just need to trust Sam
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:05 pm to
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When was the last time a top 50 overall recruit took a visit here? I don't remember.


A 5* QB just visited a few months ago and wanted $2M and Arkansas basically told him to get lost.

His final 3 schools were Ark, Oregon, and Miami... And it looks like he's going to go to Miami now, which I'm sure met his offer.

Arkansas also just lost a big O-line recruit to Texas this weekend... Which guarantees $50K for everyone in that position group...

It's obvious that we are either not approaching NIL properly in football or simply don't have the booster backing to compete in that sport... Unlike Basketball, which is supposedly killing it in NIL and has already produced a national title-caliber roster.
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:09 pm to
not to mention we're apparently going to miss out on Markis Deal because of money

We aren't committed to winning in football
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:26 pm to
It is a lot easier to use NIL money in basketball because you only need a handful of players each year. Also it helps that Arkansas basketball is a bigger brand than in football.

NIL needs to be regulated because small states like Arkansas aren't able to compete with the oil and gas money state like Texas. NIL is just a front to funnel other money that is illegal. Saban and Bama are bitching about it because NIL takes the advantages they had in the past but now that bigger states with more money can just buy a team without any rules in place.
Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:35 pm to






Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:35 pm to




Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:35 pm to
Class Rankings

247 Composite: # 6 - 5 ****, 12 ***

247: # 6 - 6 ****, 11 ***

247 Overall: # 6 - 5 ****, 12 ***

Rivals: # 10 - 4 ****, 13 ***

ESPN: # 7 - 7 ****, 10 ***

On3 Consensus: # 10 - 6 ****, 10 ***, 1 N/A

On3 - # 13 - 2 ****, 14 ***, 1 N/A
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:57 am
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:35 pm to
Recruiting Update

4-stars by site
1. TE Shamar Easter - On3 Consensus, On3, 247 Composite, 247, Rivals, ESPN
2. TE Luke Hasz - On3 Consensus, On3, 247 Composite, 247, Rivals, ESPN
3. OL Luke Brown - On3 Consensus, 247 Composite, 247, Rivals, ESPN
4. TE Jaden Hamm - On3 Consensus, 247 Composite, 247, ESPN
5. QB Malachi Singleton - On3 Consensus, 247 Composite, 247, ESPN
6. CB Dallas Young - On3 Consensus, ESPN
7. EDGE Quincy Rhodes - 247
8. DL Kaleb James - ESPN
9. LB Carson Dean - Rivals

Individual Rankings by site: 247, Rivals and ESPN

TE Luke Hasz - 93 grade 4-star on 247; 96 grade 4-star on 247 Composite
- 5.9 grade 4-star on Rivals
- 85 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 91 grade 4-star on On3; 92 grade 4-star on On3 Consensus

TE Shamar Easter - 92 grade 4-star on 247; 94 grade 4-star on 247 Composite
- 5.9 grade 4-star on Rivals
- 81 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 94 grade 4-star on On3; 92 grade 4-star on On3 Consensus

OT Luke Brown - 90 grade 4-star on 247; 89 grade 4-star on 247 Composite
- 5.8 grade 4-star on Rivals
- 81 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 88 grade 3-star on On3; 89 grade 4-star on On3 Consensus

QB Malachi Singleton - 91 grade 4-star on 247; 89 grade 4-star on 247 Composite
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 80 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 88 grade 3-star on On3; 89 grade 4-star on On3 Consensus

TE Jaden Hamm - 90 grade 4-star on 247; 89 grade 4-star on 247 Composite
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 81 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 89 grade 3-star on On3; 89 grade 4-star on On3 Consensus

CB Dallas Young - 89 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 80 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 89 grade 3-star on On3; 89 grade 4-star on On3 Consensus

EDGE Quincy Rhodes - 90 grade 4-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 79 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 88 grade 3-star on On3; 88 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

DL Kaleb James - 87 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 80 grade 4-star on ESPN
- 87 grade 3-star on On3; 88 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

LB Carson Dean - 86 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.8 grade 4-star on Rivals
- 79 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 86 grade 3-star on On3; 87 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

S Christian Ford - 87 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 77 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 88 grade 3-star on On3; 87 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

RB Isaiah Augustave - 89 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.6 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 79 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 89 grade 3-star on On3; 86 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

CB RJ Johnson - 87 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 76 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 86 grade 3-star on On3

IOL Joey Su'a - 86 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 77 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 85 grade 3-star on On3; 86 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

LB Alex Sanford - 87 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.7 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 76 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 85 grade 3-star on On3

DT Ian Geffrard - 86 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.5 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 77 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 85 grade 3-star on On3; 83 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

LB Everett Roussaw - 84 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.5 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 78 grade 3-star on ESPN
- 86 grade 3-star on On3; 84 grade 3-star on On3 Consensus

DL Stephen Johnson - 86 grade 3-star on 247
- 5.5 grade 3-star on Rivals
- 73 grade 3-star on ESPN
- N/A grade on On3
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25784 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:38 pm to
Sam and Yuracheck do but the university and the state doesn't they have the deep pockets to become competitive in this lawless age of NIL.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25784 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:43 pm to
I guess Ole Miss didn't want him.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25403 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Sam and Yuracheck do but the university and the state doesn't they have the deep pockets to become competitive in this lawless age of NIL.


There's plenty of money in Arkansas, but it doesn't seem that any of the billionaires have any interest in spending $10M+/yr to bankroll a top football team.

Basketball already has its billionaire benefactor in the Hunts. Doesn't seem so far that anyone else wants to buck up for football.

There also doesn't seem to be much organization from the regular fans yet. If there were some legitamate service where eveyone could just subscribe for $5/month and the $ went to paying for football recruits, I feel like many many people would sign up.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25784 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 5:03 pm to
Arkansas has money but other states do to. The State of Texas has a population almost 30 million with so much money, they don't know what to do with it. The Aggies are buying players and no one in the SEC can compete with them and it has made Saban worried.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7602 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

A 5* QB just visited a few months ago and wanted $2M and Arkansas basically told him to get lost. His final 3 schools were Ark, Oregon, and Miami... And it looks like he's going to go to Miami now, which I'm sure met his offer.

Arkansas also just lost a big O-line recruit to Texas this weekend... Which guarantees $50K for everyone in that position group...


Rashada was recently downgraded to a 4* so it sounds like we made the right decision.

And we’re about to land an OL in Patterson who is actually rated higher than Stroh. So…
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67705 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:38 pm to
Roussaw decommits.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19950 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:39 pm to
Didn’t we hire his high school coach??
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67705 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:44 pm to
Yeah, probably hurt his feelings we're taking other LB's.
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