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re: Your thoughts on Bama's offense after game 1
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:58 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:58 pm to CrimsonTideMD
It's true, this man makes a living in stats bro. Not trying to be rude or anything but he has 30 years of stats and Bama experience.
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:26 pm to CrimsonBoz
Who's the sauce, baw?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:47 pm to narddogg81
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Washington was top 15 in sacks last year. Also top 15 in pass defense. They had a better pass rush ranking than every sec team besides us. They had a better pass d than us
and Sam Darnold threw for over 280 yards on them.
It will be interesting to see what everyone's narrative will be after this weekend.
What happens if Tua comes in and looks great this weekend. Will the narrative be because he had a big lead to work with.
Conversely, if Tua comes in and really struggles, will the outcry against Hurts calm down some.
I see the Tua unknown as a big source of people being critical of Hurts. (That and his struggles)
Posted on 9/7/17 at 2:08 pm to ArabianKnight
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What happens if Tua comes in and looks great this weekend.
I actually half expect this. But, the last thing I want is another true freshman starting at QB. The obvious best case scenario is that the light comes on for Jalen and he starts looking like Peyton Manning with wheels.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 2:48 pm to Teague
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What happens if Tua comes in and looks great this weekend.
I actually half expect this. But, the last thing I want is another true freshman starting at QB. The obvious best case scenario is that the light comes on for Jalen and he starts looking like Peyton Manning with wheels.
But if Tagovailoa thinks he's good enough to start, or at least get serious playing time, and he doesn't get that chance, he may decide to transfer. Yeah. I hear all about how he's not like Barnett, and he'll stick it out, etc etc etc, but if he's very good and doesn't even get a chance, it is highly unlikely he'll stick around 4 years to play 1.
Personally, I have no problems with freshmen starting if they're good enough. We did pretty good with Hurts last year. If Tagovailoa is actually better, and I don't know that he is but nobody else knows for sure that he isn't, then who's to say we can't do as well or better than last year.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:17 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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but if he's very good and doesn't even get a chance
I think Tua is gonna be very good...but if Saban thought Tua gave Bama a better chance to win, he would've started him...you just have to go back to last year to see that...it's disingenuous to suggest that Tua might not even get a chance...he's already had a chance in the Spring and again this Fall...by all accounts he's doing very well, but I assume not well enough to overtake Hurts...the coaches are starting Hurts for a reason...
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:41 pm to OldPete
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.it's disingenuous to suggest that Tua might not even get a chance
oh, but I didn't say that he might not get a chance. In fact, I think he will get his chance. I'm pretty sure he'll get some playing time in the next few games, if for no other reason than a team must have at least a couple of quarterbacks ready.
edit: I didn't read all your post before I commented, but chance in practice does not equate to real playing time. We've played one game, and that was against one of the best teams in the nation. It was very unlikely he would play in that game. I expect we'll see him this Saturday. And after all, we should all be pulling for him, too. He also wears crimson and white.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:45 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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but chance in practice does not equate to real playing time.
And we only have to look back to last year to see that Saban isn't afraid to make a change to the starter after seeing a guy in one game.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 5:55 pm to ArabianKnight
If/When Tua outshines Jalen on Saturday get ready for a barrage of excuses, and major PR control by Saban.
Look, as I've said, the best case scenario for any team is to have a player that gets replaced by a better player behind him. If Tua is better - number 1, that's great news, and number 2, he should get the job.
I wonder, if Tua had come in last year, who would've won the job?
Again, idk if Tua is currently our best option, but I do know that Tua has a higher ceiling. If Tua doesn't supplant Jalen within the next couple of seasons, I'd take that as an indictment of our offensive staff
Look, as I've said, the best case scenario for any team is to have a player that gets replaced by a better player behind him. If Tua is better - number 1, that's great news, and number 2, he should get the job.
I wonder, if Tua had come in last year, who would've won the job?
Again, idk if Tua is currently our best option, but I do know that Tua has a higher ceiling. If Tua doesn't supplant Jalen within the next couple of seasons, I'd take that as an indictment of our offensive staff
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:13 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
“I think we have to get more guys involved in the passing game,” head coach Nick Saban said after Wednesday’s practice. “I think guys have capabilities, and the only way they’re going to develop confidence is if they have a few more opportunities.
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:27 pm to uofarolltide
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If/When Tua outshines Jalen on Saturday get ready for a barrage of excuses, and major PR control by Saban.
Wut?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:29 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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“I think we have to get more guys involved in the passing game,” head coach Nick Saban said after Wednesday’s practice. “I think guys have capabilities, and the only way they’re going to develop confidence is if they have a few more opportunities.
Yep. Saban isn't going to be satisfied with just getting by. He wants explosive plays. He's made that clear since he hired Kiffin.
If he doesn't think Hurts can deliver that he'll figure something else out.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Alabama facing third down woes | TideSports.com
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Alabama is looking for answers on answers. Execution issues led to missed opportunities in week one.
But a more extensive look at the offense over the last three games dating back to the 2016 College Football Playoffs reveals a stunning lack of efficiency on third downs. The offense is converting just 20 percent (9 of 45) of third downs combined against Washington (4 of 14), Clemson(2 of 15) and Florida State (3 of 16).
For context it’s important to note the caliber of defenses UA faced during that stretch, but lack of production on first and second down has left the offense in trouble on third down.
During those three games, the offense has averaged 9.3 yards to go on third down.
Against Florida State third down was invitation for the Seminoles to bring pressure, and UA didn’t take advantage of it.
“We might have missed somethings,” junior wide receiver Calvin Ridley said.
The problem isn’t targeted at any one particular area. Rather it’s the offensive unit not performing in sync.
Take for instance several plays from the Florida State game. One play saw a wide receiver running open, but the pass protection didn’t hold up. On the second play from scrimmage, Jalen Hurts threw out of bounds when Ridley had his man beat down the right sideline.
“If all 11 guys don’t do their job, the play usually doesn’t work very well, especially if it’s a pass,” Nick Saban said. “Everybody has to protect the right guy. Everybody has to run the right route. The quarterback has to deliver the ball to the right guy. There’s a lot more things that can go wrong when you throw the ball.”
Much has been made about Hurts’ 96-yard passing performance, but lack of production on first and second down in the run game didn’t help. Against Florida State, UA had 11 third downs of more than 5 yards.
Out of sync
“We had some big plays in the passing game that we did not make because people didn’t do what they were supposed to do,” Saban said. “People usually give the quarterback more credit than he deserves when he does well, and they also criticize him more when he doesn’t. But sometimes it’s not all on him.
“We need to do a better job overall of executing some of those plays so that we can make more of explosive plays on offense. When you’re a play caller, a signal caller, things work when you execute. I thought that we learned something about our team. There’s things that we can do differently and better. We’ll all grow and learn from it and do better this week.”
Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Wut?
I mean the fans will make excuses like Fresno was worn down, the game was out of reach, etc
There would also be huge Tua hype, which Saban would have to shut down in his press conference with "Jalen is still our QB" type speech
The next step would be Tua actually taking the reins
This is what I'm saying will happen IF Tua looks much better than Jalen on Saturday, which very well may happen
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:53 pm to uofarolltide
Look I don't want to call any of you delusional but if Tua comes in after Jalen has put the game away and plays well. He isn't starting the next game lol. Dream away with this narrative but unless Jalen has a total meltdown or gets hurt he is the guy.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:58 pm to uofarolltide
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I mean the fans will make excuses like Fresno was worn down, the game was out of reach, etc
You just said Saban would make excuses, like he has some sort of vested interest in playing Hurts and sitting Tua.
That's where "wut" came from.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:09 pm to TidalSurge1
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During those three games, the offense has averaged 9.3 yards to go on third down
Is that correct? I'm not sure about that, but if it's so, that's damn depressing.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:19 pm to CrimsonBoz
I am hoping that in the next couple of games Tua gets to come in with the starting offensive line and receivers. Give the guy a chance to compete. I don't see the downside. These players know a team has to have at least two capable quarterbacks ready in case one is hurt. I'd guess, too, that the offense is embarrassed lately, and would like to prove they're better than what they've shown the last 3 games.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:23 pm to uofarolltide
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Look, as I've said, the best case scenario for any team is to have a player that gets replaced by a better player behind him. If Tua is better - number 1, that's great news, and number 2, he should get the job.
No, that's a terrible scenario. That means the coaching staff can't evaluate the talent correctly. It can also lead to dissension in the locker room.
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I wonder, if Tua had come in last year, who would've won the job?
I wonder, if your aunt had testicles, would she be your uncle?
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Again, idk if Tua is currently our best option, but I do know that Tua has a higher ceiling.
You KNOW this? Beyond a shadow of a doubt? Pray tell, how exactly do you know this?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:23 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
We've only played 1 game with the current offense. The last two mean nothing absolutely nothing. Sure let Tua come in and get snaps so he is a capable backup. Like I said above the idea he starts over Hurts is delusional unless 2 things happened I mentioned.
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