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re: Your thoughts on Bama's offense after game 1

Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:28 pm to
Not sure what you'd call a Hurts meltdown, but if Tua comes in and moves the ball, has good pocket presence, can read the defenses and get the offense in the right plays, check down to secondary receivers, and hit the intermediate and long throws (see sig), then I bet the team will respond well to that because, frankly, we haven't had much of that lately. If that happens, I bet he will get significant playing time leading up to the tough games with the good defense. I mean, that would be good for the team. Yes? As I say, I see no downside to it.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:37 pm to
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It's true, this man makes a living in stats bro. Not trying to be rude or anything but he has 30 years of stats and Bama experience.



Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
17002 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:41 pm to
Again, it's jalens job until he has a meltdown or gets hurt. Meltdown being throws many many picks or fumbles a shite load of times. Etc. hey if Tua comes in and wows us great let's roll. But the Tua I've seen has serious problems throwing picks. But it's expected, he forces a ton of throws.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:41 pm to
Not really sure what this means but ok.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:44 pm to
I just laugh at the unknown sources and the "I know people" stuff. It's hilarious, no matter who is saying it but to each his own.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:48 pm to
I never said I know people, and it's not an unknown source I'm just not putting them on rant blast, if he wants to come in he can. He's here among you. I'm pretty sure I've been right a lot so carry on with whatever you'd like. There is a reason I don't post much here other than opinion.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:55 pm to
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Huddie Leadbetter


I don't think Tua will start a game unless Jalen gets hurt or suspended. I also don't think that Jalen has lost the locker room.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:02 pm to
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I never said I know people, and it's not an unknown source I'm just not putting them on rant blast, if he wants to come in he can. He's here among you. I'm pretty sure I've been right a lot so carry on with whatever you'd like. There is a reason I don't post much here other than opinion.



It's unknown to us. I'll never get the "source" thing but whatevs.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:26 am to
Nothing really to get about it lol. People make fun of sources but ask for the info after. Weird cycle it plays. So on this forum I just talk about my opinions and leave most of what I hear from the program out of it.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:13 am to
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People make fun of sources but ask for the info after.


Yea that usually happens during discussion and someone says "I know this dude who is an analyst" or "I have sources within the team".

That's one of the parts that's so laughable to me. Anyone can say anything. I can say well I know of an analyst who played for a P5 football, and has been an analyst for 20+ years that has said Jalen has issues in the pocket, doesn't go through progressions, runs sooner than he should and coaches are trying to work with him. He also has video evidence to prove it. (Source: Kirk Herbstreit)

But anywho. It gave me a chuckle.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:25 am to
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I don't think Tua will start a game unless Jalen gets hurt or suspended.


I will, once again, go a step further.

I'm not sure Tua will even PLAY in a game this season unless Jalen is unavailable.
Posted by Culverhouse13
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:00 am to
Why do you think that?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
17002 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:14 am to
Ok that could be the case for someone else. I've proven time and again I have a connection or two. Not a big deal. My previous comment wasn't a "source" either. It is a guy who runs numbers for the games. Pretty simple.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:27 am to
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but if Tua comes in and moves the ball, has good pocket presence, can read the defenses and get the offense in the right plays, check down to secondary receivers, and hit the intermediate and long throws


Translation:

"But if Tua comes in and is Jesus in cleats as a true freshman"

Seriously, our woes last year were related to our QB being a freshman, and those woes are common to ALL freshmen - and are usually much worse and compounded with additional woes. Therefore, I can't for the life of me understand why any Bama fan would want to have another freshman run the offense.

It's like if you microwaved your hot pocket too long, and your solution to cooling it down is to microwave it more. It ain't gonna work.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:31 am to
However, to your point about Tua seeing time - absolutely, whoever is the number 2 guy, whether Tua, Mac, or whomever - that person needs to get as much PT as humanly possible.

But I think we as a fanbase need to accept the likely fact that Hurts is BY FAR the best option we have. The likelihood that either younger guy is better is almost nil.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:33 am to
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Why do you think that?


These are clearly assumtions on my part and my on biases clearly come into play, but I see it as a McElroy/McCarron 2009 situation.

They've got a starting QB that they trust a lot to lead the team and they've got what looks to be a really talented but green as grass backup who is only one year behind him. That's pretty much a carbon copy of that season.

AJ rode the pine while others got the mop-up duty but Saban has since stated many times that if something had happened to McElroy it would have been AJ that got the call. Since nothing happened to McElroy they got to redshirt AJ, get him game experience as a RS freshman, and have him as starter for an additional season in 2013.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's the Tua plan now.

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:38 am to
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f Tua comes in and moves the ball, has good pocket presence, can read the defenses and get the offense in the right plays, check down to secondary receivers, and hit the intermediate and long throws


Let me pose a question to you.

Do you honestly think that if Tua was doing this significantly better than Hurts in practice that he wouldn't have played in the opener?

Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21702 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:39 am to
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These are clearly assumtions on my part and my on biases clearly come into play, but I see it as a McElroy/McCarron 2009 situation. They've got a starting QB that they trust a lot to lead the team and they've got what looks to be a really talented but green as grass backup who is only one year behind him. That's pretty much a carbon copy of that season. AJ rode the pine while others got the mop-up duty but Saban has since stated many times that if something had happened to McElroy it would have been AJ that got the call. Since nothing happened to McElroy they got to redshirt AJ, get him game experience as a RS freshman, and have him as starter for an additional season in 2013. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's the Tua plan now.


I thought that during the off season too. But, the more I listen to Saban, the more I think he's going to get Tua on the field this year. Maybe he's worried about the likelihood of Jalen being injured, since half his plays are running plays. It's ok to have a subpar backup if he's just there for garbage time. But, there's a solid chance we're going to need the back up to play meaningful snaps.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:40 am to
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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's the Tua plan now.


Many of us, including myself, have been hypothesizing the same for months. The problem with the theory is Saban's direct statements only a few weeks ago that Tua will play this year, and has to play this year.

We shall see.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
996 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 am to
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But I think we as a fanbase need to accept the likely fact that Hurts is BY FAR the best option we have. The likelihood that either younger guy is better is almost nil.


Not possible. uofarolltide KNOWS that Tua has a higher ceiling.
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