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re: What permanent, everyday changes come out of this coronavirus event?

Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:07 am to
Posted by Capstone2017
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:07 am to
Aren't you doing the same thing? Self-righteous moralizing about people who follow what trends influencers are doing? Influencers are no different than celebrities, which has influenced every generation since the creation of radio/tv just a different format.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:13 am to
The only thing that is worse than the covid-19 virus at this point is trying to wade through all the paid political announcements that are laced with every report. I'm now watching the BBC world news broadcast mostly and lo and behold all I'm getting is the news and just the news. How refreshing.

Wouldn't it be cool if by some miracle this virus actually caused the propaganda machines in this country to actually report just the facts? One can dream.
Posted by Kk74
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:55 pm to
It’s been a lot easier to get my kids ADHD prescriptions. Before I had to go pick up a physical prescription every month. All of a sudden they were able to call in these same prescriptions. I would love for that to continue.
Posted by prevatt33b
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:07 pm to
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What permanent, everyday changes come out of this coronavirus event?


Maybe Dre will finally drop Detox.
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:22 pm to
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It’s been a lot easier to get my kids ADHD prescriptions. Before I had to go pick up a physical prescription every month. All of a sudden they were able to call in these same prescriptions. I would love for that to continue.




Umm, no. They aren't calling them in. That doesn't fly with the DEA. They are sending them electronically which they have been encouraging physicians to adopt for at least 5 years, maybe longer. It's called E-prescribing and they should have been doing it long ago. My doctor finally caved and started doing it last year.
Posted by Kk74
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:23 pm to
Well, whatever they are doing, it is way more convenient!
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 9:43 am to
We're a few weeks shy of six months now since this thread started.

Did anyone think we'd still be in this position today?

Several months later, knowing what you know now, what permanent changes do you think we'll see going forward?

Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:07 am to
We are realizing that we have a shite ton of unnecessary retail and office space. The downsizing of American business is just beginning, but commercial real estate is about have a depression. Online shopping it starting to explode and Americans will learn they don't need a Hollister or American Eagle or BAM on every corner.
Posted by ATLabama
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:36 am to
My sincere hope is that we can have flexible working arrangements stick around.

I think the idea that you have to be in the office 5 days a week is absolutely ridiculous in this day and age. The people that generally demand it (at least at might company), are 50+-year-olds who want to see VPs and below spend 60-70 hours at the office as they did back in their day.

When COVID hit, these MDs pounded the table about how it was going to decrease productivity, yada-yada. 3 months into, productivity was up. No one, especially those who grew up in the digital age, had no issue being able to be (1) readily available, and (2) productive.

Do I think there is still a need for office space? Yes. Plainly, important meetings, strategy sessions, and general repore are built by being in-person. Cities like NYC and SF aren't going to die, despite the wishes of many on the O-T Lounge. The cost of real estate will hopefully correct itself.

However, people have lives. The ability to work-from-home allows people to steal back so much time in their daily schedules. It would allow working parents to be more involved. It'll provide people with mid-day mental breaks, which, are often faux-pas in normal office settings.

Overall, I think there will be a lot of "good" that comes out of this crisis. Hopefully, the deconstruction of the American workday paradigm is one of them.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:53 am to
A lot of doctors in these here parts are excited about the effectiveness of seeing their patients online. My wife's general practitioner is rethinking the whole model when this COVID stuff finally passes through. Another friend of mine practicing in the area says its a done deal. He had no idea that his patients would be this enthusiastic about it as well.

My grandkids are getting homeschooled, at least through this mess, only because of their parents getting the option to work at home.

I'm not sure if there ever would be a great time to have a plague, but given the circumstances, ain't it great we all have so much incredible technology in our infrastructure to get us through?
Posted by DLev45
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 2:57 pm to
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I think the idea that you have to be in the office 5 days a week is absolutely ridiculous in this day and age. The people that generally demand it (at least at might company), are 50+-year-olds who want to see VPs and below spend 60-70 hours at the office as they did back in their day.

When COVID hit, these MDs pounded the table about how it was going to decrease productivity, yada-yada. 3 months into, productivity was up. No one, especially those who grew up in the digital age, had no issue being able to be (1) readily available, and (2) productive.

Do I think there is still a need for office space? Yes. Plainly, important meetings, strategy sessions, and general repore are built by being in-person. Cities like NYC and SF aren't going to die, despite the wishes of many on the O-T Lounge. The cost of real estate will hopefully correct itself.


This is what I came here to say. Office real estate is going to take a huge hit.

Brick and mortar retail space had already been on a severe decline the last 20 years thanks to online shopping.

Office space, on the other hand, had not suffered nearly as rapid a decline. But COVID has forced companies to adapt to technology much, much faster than they would have done otherwise and shown just how MUCH you actually can accomplish remotely.

A lot of this is generational. Gen-X and millennials had embraced remote work and tech much faster than their boomer counterparts.

But now that the boomers have also had to embrace remote tech, while still making the majority of decisions at companies, they are going to start looking at that rent item on the balance sheet and see the potential for large savings.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:28 pm to
An economic depression with possible hype inflation?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:29 pm to
Americans can always be counted to do the right thing.....eventually.----Winston Churchill.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:30 pm to
Online Education is transparent, should be much more affordable and universal. Surviving colleges with huge endowments should follow Berea College model.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:31 pm to
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An economic depression with possible hype inflation?

The subject of tax collection is an interesting and potentially significant story in this pandemic, and it's seemingly not getting a lot of coverage yet.

With unemployment, lack of overall business revenue, and stimulus program distributions, I'm concerned that all levels of government, from municipalities up to the fed, will be woefully lacking in funding over the next few years as this shakes out and the coffers have been raided.

While no one is a fan of paying taxes, I don't think we yet know the full impact that this will have on our economy going forward.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:34 pm to
Government spending cuts need to be on the tables. If not, we will have a currency crisis---something most Americans can't fathom.
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:44 pm to
Depends on who wins the election. If Democrats win this all goes away shortly. If not they’ll do everything they can to derail anything good for the American people.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:08 pm to
I'm all for remote work, but this...

quote:

3 months into, productivity was up


is simply untrue. Productivity for remote workers has declined by 14% in the US relative to pre-COVID production.

This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:10 pm to
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If Democrats win this all goes away shortly.


Doesn’t Biden want to shut things down if he wins ?
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 5:01 pm to
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Doesn’t Biden want to shut things down if he wins ?



Not a chance, unless people are dying in the streets.
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