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re: What permanent, everyday changes come out of this coronavirus event?

Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:17 pm to
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There are a couple of factors at play here, ATL.

1) The Millennial generation. They were a huge cohort, their parents had the income to afford to send them to college and college was highly encouraged. Colleges and universities went high on the hog during those years. 1. They went on massive building campaigns without realizing that future generations would present smaller number of students. The universities cannot get value out of a building like they would an endowment that earns money. 2. The universities answered to demand and thus raised tuitions and started paying employees a lot more money. They either must now lay-off employees or keep costs high. 3. Schools, like Alabama, went aggressively after OOS students, knowing that they could charge more money to them. Now they have the infrastructure for 30k students or more, but can they continue to support it?

2) State lotteries. What do you think happens when you give a bunch of money to politicians? Will they put it into the bank or into other good investments to be used to help the people? Nope. They doled out the money to buddies. Many of these buddies used the money to build nice big buildings on university campuses. In GA, a number of former Jr./community colleges transitioned into four year colleges off the back of the GA lottery. Many of them did not really need to be four year colleges. They built buildings and dorms and hired more faculty and the costs go up and guess where the lottery money is? Tuition guarantees that once where in place got lower. The Lottery in some years has not even been able to support HOPE costs.




Universities have benefited mightily of the new-age workforce. Trade schools and mass production certainly benefited when our culture transformed itself from a predominantly agricultural society to a thriving industrial economy. Universities have now grown exponentially again through our evolution to the technological age.

High tech and Universities are shaping paychecks, politics and social behavior patterns. Suddenly as a culture, without racial prejudice, by the way, those void of higher-education are indeed considered less in every way.

It has had extreme consequences on this country during the last presidential election. It has divided political parties and media news stations and society as a whole like never before. Could Google now be the new beast in the room? Oh yeah.
Posted by RJYH
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:45 pm to
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Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.

Posted by mre
Birmingham
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:58 pm to
Here's a link to the actual article: LINK /

Here are some other articles from the WP presenting the opposing view: LINK LINK
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:12 am to
Liar - even the Washington Post ran a story debunking that hate-America talking point.

See RJYH post.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 6:15 am
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
1834 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:13 am to
Liar - even the Washington Post ran a story debunking that hate-America talking point.

See RJYH post.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 6:15 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44343 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:54 am to
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Liar


Lol ok buddy.

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even the Washington Post ran a story debunking that hate-America talking point.


Hate America talking point? First of all, what the frick is that? Second of all, John Bolton is practically the only person making the claim that the Trump administration didn't de-prioritize infectious disease response readiness. See also, the massive proposed CDC budget cuts.

This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 7:05 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:01 pm to
Hopefully some good changes.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 4:57 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 7:16 am to
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One thing I hope comes out of this is people take notice of who this virus is targeting sans the elderly. People with poor immune systems, smokers and sedentary lifestyles are all at risk.

Hopefully this gets more people off their fat asses and causes them to reassess their living situation. Stop all the gorging on fast food and get outside once in a while.

Amen! Most US citizens have unhealthy diets, immune systems and sedentary lifestyles. Heck, 50% of Americans are now getting cancer -- due mainly to poor nutrition and overexposure to toxins in GMO and processed foods, personal hygiene and household products, polluted water and air. The toxins are EPA and FDA approved ("safe" in small amounts). People ingest and soak up LOTS of them -- all the time. America's sickcare industry's "solutions" = manmade medications to treat the symptoms, with harmful side effects that lead to more medications to deal with those side effects. Huge profitable industries thrive on providing harmful foods, poisoning the sheeple and treating their symptoms. Most people keep falling for the info and advertising they get via mainstream media -- buying, using and consuming it all -- expecting different results than they're getting.

Yet, there's much more government and public concern and action about preventing COVID-19 than there ever is about any of that stuff.

ETA: My younger brother lived that lifestyle his entire adult life. In his mid 50s, final chapter: An oncologist supplied him Morphine and finished him off in 3 months time with chemotherapy, profiting bigly. In contrast, my father took good care of himself via a healthy diet & lifestyle and natural illness prevention and remedies. He lived a healthy and active life to 90 years of age.

Wake up, fellow Americans!
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 7:47 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:10 pm to
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2) State lotteries...



The state lottery...aka, the state tax on stupid people.
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:02 pm to
If the rich could buy the cure to cancer than Paul Allen/Steve Jobs would be well alive. GMO are an amazing invention that have saved millions if not billions from starving to death.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 9:10 am
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:14 pm to
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Amen! Most US citizens have unhealthy diets, immune systems and sedentary lifestyles. Heck, 50% of Americans are now getting cancer -- due mainly to poor nutrition and overexposure to toxins in GMO and processed foods, personal hygiene and household products, polluted water and air. The toxins are FDA approved ("harmless" in small amounts). People ingest and soak up LOTS of them -- all the time. America's sickcare industry's "solutions" = manmade medications to treat the symptoms, with harmful side effects that lead to more medications to deal with those side effects. Huge profitable industries thrive on providing harmful foods, poisoning the sheeple and treating their symptoms. Most people keep falling for the info and advertising they get via mainstream media -- buying, using & consuming it all -- while expecting different results than they're getting.

Yet, there's much more government and public concern and action about preventing COVID-19 than there is about any of that stuff.

ETA: My younger brother lived that lifestyle his entire adult life. In his mid 50s, final chapter: An oncologist supplied him Morphine and finished him off in 3 months time with chemotherapy, profiting bigly. In contrast, my father took good care of himself via a healthy diet & lifestyle and natural illness prevention and remedies. He lived a healthy and active life to 90 years of age.

Wake up!


Excellent post and I very much agree, with the exception of GMO's. Genetically modifying our food has been something humans have been doing for thousands of years.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 3:50 pm to
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Excellent post and I very much agree, with the exception of GMO's. Genetically modifying our food has been something humans have been doing for thousands of years.

Humans have been cross-pollinating, grafting plants, etc for centuries. But have humans even known about the existence of genes, much less genetic engineering/modification for thousands of years? And what kind of genetic modifications, for what purposes? Better quality plants, including food plants?

Monsanto does it to make foodcrops immune to glyphosate, the active carcenogenic ingredient in Monsanto's Roundup systemic herbicide. It's a vegetation killer. Monsanto has patents on their GMO seeds and the GMO foods are loaded with glyphosate from spraying the fields, vineyards, orchards, etc.

Common weed killer glyphosate increases cancer risk by 41%, study says

Obama Signs ‘Monsanto Protection Act’ Written by Monsanto-Sponsored Senator

Many countries are banning Monsanto's seeds and herbicide as well as importation of the GMO produce. But the FDA and EPA permit Monsanto to get away with their deadly, near-monopoly practices and grand scale pollution in the good ol' U.S. of A. They also legally flouridate (pollute) municipal water supplies with the flouride waste byproducts of their phosphate mining and fertizer production. It might (or might not) help teeth some, but otherwise it's a very dangerous health hazard.

Chanson C3 Pre-Filtration System -- great and economical system. About $175 - $195. Easy to hookup to cold water supply feeding sink and fridge (under kitchen sink). Replace all 3 filter cartidges yearly for about $100. Removes bad chemicals, metals, etc., including chlorine and flouride, but not beneficial minerals. Much better and cheaper than R/O systems and buying bottled water. "Filtered" bottled water is a scam, don't waste money on it. If you buy water, get spring water. You can also get shower head filters that use the same filter technologies. Skin soaks up water and the toxins in it like a sponge and then they enter your bloodstream.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:00 am
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 9:57 pm to
Yo, Monsanto is the straight-up Devil. No argument there.

My only point was that genetically modifying a plant, in and of itself, it not necessarily bad. fricking up ecosystems and other Monsanto horseshite is another thing altogether. I think a person could kill all the executives at the top of Monsanto's organization and not need to ask God for forgiveness - that's how bad they are.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:10 pm to
You get it, the GMO plants themselves aren't a health hazard, it's the glyphosate they contain. We 100% agree on Monsanto, they're absolutely criminal on a grand scale, and they "buy" the protection of all three branches of our corrupt federal government. I don't know how anyone with a conscience who knows how evil they are could work for Monsanto or purchase anything they produce.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:19 pm to
There are truly evil companies in the world. Nestle isn't far behind Monsanto.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:30 pm to
Monsanto owns Nestle. I won't buy their products either.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13172 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:46 pm to
Curious here, but what has Nestle done or are doing ? Out of the loop I guess
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:54 pm to
Is Nestle a bad guy? I’m with Bear, I needs to know I’m not even a big sweet eater, but I’ll cut it out completely if I have to
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13172 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:57 pm to
Used to love Nestle Quick as a kid . Am I going to die from it ?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 3/20/20 at 11:00 pm to
I’d like to know if chocolate milk is what has caused me to be an a-hole
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