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UAB to AAU status. How does that affect UA?

Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:16 am
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:16 am
Do we become second class citizens. Good job for them honestly.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
2219 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:25 am to
Good for them. It would be nice to achieve that at UA but I seem to recall that would entail having a med school on campus. Maybe I'm mistaken and if I am, please correct me here.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
14663 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:32 am to
Technically no I believe. It’s just damn hard to do so without the research dollars from public and private sector coming into a research hospital.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
2028 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:33 am to
I don't think you necessarily have to have a medical school on campus. I think they go by total research dollars achieved. UAB has over 900 million.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25560 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:59 am to
Letting uab have the med school was a generational mistake for the university of Alabama.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
25114 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 7:50 am to
Yup. Massive amounts of revenue, research grants, and prestige lost
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7668 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 8:28 am to
Ultimately the UA system serves the state of Alabama, you can't look at as one school trying to best the other. Great news for our State and college system.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25560 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 8:37 am to
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Ultimately the UA system serves the state of Alabama, you can't look at as one school trying to best the other.

Yes you can. You absolutely can. Almost everyone else nationally does.

You think UNC Chapel Hill would let UNC Charlotte steal the flagship medical research hospital for the state? Hell no.

How about the university of Michigan giving their hospital to UM-Dearborn? Never happen.

UT-Austin to any of their satellite locations? No.

What Alabama did with UAB was catastrophic to its brand and devalued its academic perception for all time. Bama is viewed within research circles as a redneck football party school and UAB is the bastion of intellectual work in the state. It along with the disaster that was the civil rights era are the most devastating things to happen to the brand in its history and I doubt it can ever be fixed at this point.

This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 8:52 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
58063 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:09 am to
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Bama is viewed within research circles as a redneck football party school


Well....
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
2219 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:18 am to
I agree with the Civil Rights issues from the the 1950s and 1960 hurt the state's and University's image and to a certain extent, still does. People up north (mostly those who have never been to Alabama) still think everyone belongs to the Klan in the state.

I think eventually, people will finally stop thinking that way but it may take decades longer. Of course, it's human nature for many people to want to look down their collective noses at others and as Southerners, we are the literally the only demographic in this country it's OK to discriminate against and assume the worst at all times.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
72381 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 11:18 am to
UAB is the research institution of our university system. This is why we need to shut down their athletic program and refocus every cent possible to making it among the most prestigious research institutions in America. Leave the sports to the primary school in T-Town.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5876 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 12:02 pm to
If Arizona State is a part of your group you can't exactly call it prestigious.

Selection is based purely on federal research dollars. Just hire a team of lobbyists in Washington and you could easily join.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25560 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 12:19 pm to
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Well....

Well it’s tough to view a school that way when everyone internationally acknowledges you’re one of the preeminent centers for research and medical care in the entire world.

The board who made that decision should be cursed by anyone associated with the University of Alabama because it devalued every degree it’s bestowed since it happened.

They took the most valuable academic asset the school had along with tens of billions in research money over a few generations and gave it away to a commuter offshoot school. Madness.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20462 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 3:39 pm to
Unfortuantely we dont have a time machine to reverse that. Im questioning the value of college in today's world.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20462 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 3:41 pm to
I joke that Alabama did create an elite school, but it's in Nashville.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20462 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 3:43 pm to
In their defense, Birmingham was a decent size city-a place where you want such infrastructure to be located.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
2219 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 4:42 pm to
Well, ASU does have a crap load of good looking co-eds, so there’s that.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Member since Apr 2024
8791 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 5:24 pm to
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What Alabama did with UAB was catastrophic to its brand and devalued its academic perception for all time. 


This can't be overstated. And UAB has absolutely given UA the finger.

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Bama is viewed within research circles as a redneck football party school and UAB is the bastion of intellectual work in the state.


Tbf, so is almost every notable institution in the deep south not named Vanderbilt, Duke or Georgia Tech a least in the eyes of northerners.

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It along with the disaster that was the civil rights era are the most devastating things to happen to the brand in its history and I doubt it can ever be fixed at this point.


Not saying you're wrong here (because you're not) but I'll never understand why this is such a stain on the university's legacy when riots broke out on Georgia's campus leading to their first minority students to be suspended for their own safety, Vandy suspended a black student due to pressure from pro-segregationist board members and wealthy donors, SC was the last SEC school to accept blacks and they had to lock down campus due to cross burnings and threats, Wallace sent troopers to block Auburn's first black student who was also swarmed by white students and they even tried to plant a gun on him in order to frame him, etc. It makes no sense why that same dark cloud has dissipated over other institutions (including Ole Miss) yet will forever linger over UA.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 7:22 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25560 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 5:27 pm to
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In their defense, Birmingham was a decent size city-a place where you want such infrastructure to be located.

You can see examples of other state flagship schools with similar situations where they kept the med school even if the primary research hospital is located in a separate metro area which is what I would’ve liked to see happen with Alabama.

Often times the classes are split between the university and the hospital where they perform research or provide care but it’s still within the aegis of the name of the university if that makes sense.

But it brings the cache and research money back to the flagship which is the key. Bama would be the AAU school in state today which is a massive deal that doesn’t get talked about on sports message boards and is pretty rare within the SEC.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20462 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 7:49 pm to
Just seems like clout chasing in a system that's on unstable ground to begin with.
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