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Posted on 5/6/20 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 10:04 am to
I agree with that. I’d be shocked if we got him tbh.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 10:09 am to
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Petty is the one that’s really up in the air. He’s saying if he’s not top 40-45, he’s going to come back, which I think would be smart.


ESPN
53 John Petty

NBADRAFT.NET
Not projected in top 60

NBA Draft Room
Not projected in top 60

My NBA Draft.com
Not projected in top 60

Draftsite.com
Not projected in top 60

Tankathon
Not projected in top 60

Azcentral.com
37 John Petty (damn it)

I don't know shite about the NBA draft, but based on that comment, and these mock drafts, it seems like there's a really good chance Petty returns.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 10:13 am to
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I agree with that. I’d be shocked if we got him tbh.


Yeah, too early to get concerned about it at this point, but we don't appear to be in the front seat, much less the driver's seat, for any of the elite 2021 bigs. I really hope this staff is able to turn that aspect of our recent recruiting around, because a lack of two way front court players has consistently bitten us in the arse over the last decade.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 10:40 am to
Yeah I don't really follow the NBA draft that closely but it does seem like a decent chance he'll be back looking at your post.

However, as someone who selfishly hopes he comes back and can go in the later first round next season, I do realize that it may just take one team being really high on him.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:11 am to
I still don't know what Petty is going to put on video next year that isn't already there. He's never going to be a good enough ball handler to be a downhill scorer. He's a somewhat undersized 3&D wing, and he has already proven himself to be both a good shooter and a good defender. His problem is that he's 6'4"-6'5" instead of 6'7"-6'8". Another year of college isn't going to result in a growth spurt so late in life that it would make him a medical oddity. All that being said, I'd love to have him back. If JQ can be half as good as Sexton and Kira were for us we'd be one of the best teams in the SEC.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:12 am to
He can definitely improve his ballhandling....which is the biggest thing holding him back.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2879 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:20 am to
Josh Primo up to #19 in the new Top247.

Now higher than Sharife Cooper
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 11:24 am
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2242 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:21 am to
yea, I think Petty improved his ball handling a good bit, and there is no reason to think he cant continue to get better. And hopefully learn to take contact in the paint and still get a good shot at the basket. All that wide open full court fast break offense we run, has to help with ball handling skills. Its all about repetition.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:28 am to
Rated higher that Sharife Cooper now LOL. And frick ESPN for not ranking international kids.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:31 am to
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He can definitely improve his ballhandling....which is the biggest thing holding him back.


Not to the point that he's going to be a secondary ball handler/slashing 2 guard. If he could be that kind of player we would have seen it by now.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:33 am to
I didn’t think he could be a great defender but he was really damn good last season. You never know
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:47 am to
UK got Sarr. He said if he doesn’t get waiver he will turn pro
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:51 pm to
Primo moved up 8 spots
Ambrose moved up 10 spots
Miles moved up 24 spots
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:02 pm to
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2022 players who could have pushed for national rankings


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Offers: Alabama, Providence, St. John's, Syracuse and Washington.

Why him? Capable of playing as a point or a two guard, Starling put up big numbers as a sophomore. He's started to fill out his body and is the kind of combo guard that many programs are seeking.


JJ Starling

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Offers: Alabama, Florida Atlantic, Iowa State and South Florida.

Why them? Twins are always intriguing, especially a pair with size and athleticism like the Thompsons bring to the table. They are fun to watch in transition and are each quickly developing all-around skill sets. Both appear poised to take off.


Amen Thompson and Ausar Thompson
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:09 pm to
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The top international players in the class of 2020


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The No. 1 international prospect in this class, Josh Primo is the youngest and most rapidly improving player on this list. The 17-year old is a skilled combo guard who is quickly becoming as impactful on the ball as he is off the ball. Standing 6-foot-5, Primo has plus positional size with a strong lower half and still looks very young giving him plenty of room to still mature. Offensively, he is one of the best shooters in this class. Coupling that with his improving ball skills and his feel as a facilitator, he makes and projects as an effective playmaker off the bounce and especially in pick and roll situations. Primo is steadily progressing and because of his age there is plenty of reason to believe that he will continue at that pace. Given that, his blend of physical tools, shot-making ability and playmaking potential, Primo projects well as a combo guard in today’s game.


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Keon Ambrose has always been a good prospect but it was not until recently that he began transitioning from prospect to player. The Canadian hybrid forward has impressive physical tools and athleticism for the position. He has always been thin but is beginning to get stronger and getting in a college weight room will be very beneficial to him as he has a wide-shouldered frame that will add plenty more weight. Ambrose has always been a good prospect thanks to his natural tools but it wasn’t really until 247Sports saw him at Flyin’ to the Hoop in Dayton, Ohio during January 2020 that Ambrose began turning the corner. Ambrose was the most productive player on the floor against a loaded Hillcrest Prep team, playing with a very high motor, crashing the glass and attacking the rim. If Ambrose continues to use his physical tools and athleticism with a high motor then he lands with a much safer floor as a player who defends multiple positions, runs in transition, rebounds and gets occasional buckets as a slasher in the half court with plenty of upside to still tap into.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
I think Petty has to continue to improve his ball handling and passing if he wants to be a pro. Even knowing that he will never be a guy that has the ball in his hands a lot. Even if he’s literally mostly only there to stand in the corner and shoot 3’s, teams are going to expect him to at least be competent when the opportunity comes up. To at least be able to make something happen if somebody closes out on him too fast.

If he was 6’8 and could shoot 40 percent from three and defend multiple positions, who cares. But at 6’4 (my guess is he’s no more than that) and a fairly average athlete? I think he needs scouts/coaches to think he’s an NBA level competent ball handler and passer and defender (and a lights out shooter).

Edit - I don’t think I’m arguing with anybody on this, but one problem for him is I don’t think any NBA team looks at him and thinks lockdown defender - he’s just too small. He’d probably be best suited to defend point guards.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:39 pm to
Can't say I disagree with any of that. I think he stands a much better chance at becoming a good facilitator than a good ball handler though. Petty seems to have decent court vision and awareness. He just doesn't dribble low enough to the ground to have a tight handle. I guess he could work on that, but I just don't see it happening. As you said though, his biggest problem is a lack of ideal size. He's a first round, possibly lottery, pick if he's 6'8".
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:44 pm to
His best case long term (this is all assuming continued improvement) would probably be as a “point guard” for a team like the Mavs. Where he just guards point guards, shoots 3s, and lets Doncic (or a “wing” like him) be the offensive PG.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Maryland just offered Rivals150 junior Wesley Cardet
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:34 pm to
If the NCAA gives Sarr a waiver ima be pissed
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