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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:27 am to
Posted by IB4bama
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:27 am to
I think thats a pretty good assessment. He does have good body control, and quick hands. Lets just hope he will be a little patient and put in the work.
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:01 am to
Dont know how anyone coukd be unimpressed with Miles. A guy with that size with that skills is impressive. Size is overrated imo. Not like he is a big.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:13 am to
He's not a post player but he's tall enough that he's going to be expected to rebound. He's going to need to get stronger to do that effectively. But in a legitimate college S&C program that isn't being run by an idiot like Ponytail that shouldn't be a problem. It's rare to find a guy who is 6'7" and that smooth of an athlete. I'm surprised he wasn't a little more highly recruited than he was. He's a project, but if he buys in and develops well I could see him being a more offense oriented version of Herb.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:13 am to
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“Coach Bryan was like, ‘Wow, look at is this guy,’” said Chad Myers, Miles' head coach at IMG Academy. “Darius made a couple of plays that really intrigued them. They went back and watched more and more film on him, and they just really fell in love with the stuff he can do. He really fits Alabama’s system, the way he can make plays with the ball in his hands and off the ball.”

After verifying what he saw on tape, Hodgson passed along his findings to head coach Nate Oats who was equally pleased with what he saw. From there, Alabama’s interest in Miles intensified as they stayed in his ear, making him a priority in the recruiting process. That extra attention paid off Tuesday as Miles committed to the Crimson Tide over Boston College and Minnesota.

“It was just the genuine love they showed from the first day they started recruiting me,” Miles said. “When you choose a school you are looking mostly for genuine love. Coaches can tell you anything. You need to be able to see through all the stuff they say, and you can tell if they really mean it. That’s what it was like with them.”

The love Miles mentioned is mutual as the 6-foot-7, 183-pound lefty is equally enamored with an Alabama offense that ranked No. 3 in the nation averaging 82 points per game.

“I like the way they let their players play,” he said. "They give them some sort of structure to the point where they can’t just run around, but they still let them make plays in games.”

Miles, the No. 113 player in the 2020 class, is no stranger to a high-scoring offense after spending his senior season on an IMG postgraduate team that averaged 96 points per game. Last season, the four-star forward averaged 12.6 points, 4.5 rebounds, 2.4 assists and 1.2 steals while shooting 58 percent from the floor and 31 percent from beyond the arc. He said Alabama told him they like his length and see him as a talented scorer at the next level.

“I think that’s where he kind of thrives,” Myers said. “He’s a guy who can get down and sprint ahead and get on the wing for you to pitch it to him. He can come off and make 3s. He can rebound and push it himself. I think he’s exactly what they want.”

If there’s one knock on Miles it’s his size as he’ll likely have to bulk up again at the next level. However, spending the last season going up against prep-school players who are often a year older than him has helped him add a bit of toughness to his game

“It forced me to work harder in the weight room,” Miles said. “I’ve been taking the weight room serious. I’ve never been that soft person. It don’t matter how big you are, how small you are, I’m going to go at you. I want to be known as a dog.”

Miles said he wants to bring that same identity to Alabama while working to add even more weight over the offseason. Lately, that’s been a bit more difficult as his local gyms and basketball courts back home in Washington D.C. have been closed due to the novel coronavirus pandemic.

“Today was like the first time in a couple of days I’ve been able to hoop,” Miles said Tuesday. “We hooped on the outside court for a little bit at a friend’s house. Other than that I’ll run every day, and after I run I’ll let my body get its rest and then I’ll do squats or toe raises. Then every day for sure I’ll do pushups and sit-ups.”

Miles has yet to visit Alabama but was impressed with the virtual tour coaches showed him. He’s also been pleased with the 2020 recruiting class the Crimson Tide has been able to build so far. Miles was Alabama’s third commitment in the past two weeks, joining highly-rated combo guard Josh Primo and JUCO scorer Keon Ellis. Alabama also signed four-star forward Keon Ambrose-Hylton in November.

“I’m excited,” Miles said. “I’ve never really been on a team with players who are as tall, so I had to play the 4 or 5. On this team, I’ll finally get the opportunity to showcase my talents on the wing.”

As for what impact he’ll make at Alabama, Miles says he’s always dreamed about making it to the NBA as quickly as possible but stated he’s more than willing to wait his turn with the Crimson Tide if need be.

“I’m not really too worried about anything like that,” Miles said. “I know coming in as a freshman, you’re just moving from high school and you’ve got to earn your spot. I know that I’m not a selfish player. I kind of pass too much because I have a lot of love for my teammates. I look forward to building a relationship with them on and off the court.”
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:13 am to
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“It forced me to work harder in the weight room,” Miles said. “I’ve been taking the weight room serious. I’ve never been that soft person. It don’t matter how big you are, how small you are, I’m going to go at you. I want to be known as a dog.”


The thread should love this one.
Posted by ArabianKnight
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:15 am to
Miles is also 2 years older than Kira was when he started at Bama.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:17 am to
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Central Arkansas transfer Hayden Koval tells me he's receiving interest from Gonzaga and UNC Greensboro.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:19 am to
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Alabama Basketball Fans can look forward to the following players debuting for @nate_oats squad next season

Damn! When you see it coming together like that...
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:20 am to
I think a lot of people have this idea that if a guy isn't able to walk in day 1 and contribute or play in the SEC then he is not a SEC caliber player. I get why that is, because 2 decades of non-existent development dictate that sort of thinking.

However, for the faults of last season (of which there were quite a few) I think Oats proved that he and his staff are very good at developing guys, specifically on the offensive end. Most good programs maintain their consistent success on the backs of developmental guys who step in and play crucial roles in years 2/3/4. We need guys like that, and there are going to be guys we sign that currently aren't strong enough, physical enough, etc to get major minutes as 18 year olds. The key is identifying guys who have a skillset that will blossom with hard work in the weight room, learning college X's and O's and playing in a system.

Miles seems like a perfect example of these types of guys from everything I've read. Ambrose-Hylton does too, as much as some seem to want/think he is going to step in and be an impact guy.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:40 am to
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I think a lot of people have this idea that if a guy isn't able to walk in day 1 and contribute or play in the SEC then he is not a SEC caliber player. I get why that is, because 2 decades of non-existent development dictate that sort of thinking.

However, for the faults of last season (of which there were quite a few) I think Oats proved that he and his staff are very good at developing guys, specifically on the offensive end. Most good programs maintain their consistent success on the backs of developmental guys who step in and play crucial roles in years 2/3/4. We need guys like that, and there are going to be guys we sign that currently aren't strong enough, physical enough, etc to get major minutes as 18 year olds. The key is identifying guys who have a skillset that will blossom with hard work in the weight room, learning college X's and O's and playing in a system.

Miles seems like a perfect example of these types of guys from everything I've read. Ambrose-Hylton does too, as much as some seem to want/think he is going to step in and be an impact guy.



Yep. You can count on one hand with a few fingers left over the number of players Gottfried, Grant, and Avery recruited who were considered projects when they signed and ever amounted to much. So people automatically think a player who doesn't do much as a freshman is destined to transfer. Just pulling a couple of examples from last year's draft, check out what De'Andre Hunter and Rui Hachimura did in their first seasons at UVA and Gonzaga. A redshirt and 4 minutes per game, respectively. Then in their 3rd seasons of college basketball they were both All-conference selections, Hachimura was an All-American and WCC POY, and Hunter was ACC DPOY.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:50 am to
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Just pulling a couple of examples from last year's draft, check out what De'Andre Hunter and Rui Hachimura did in their first seasons at UVA and Gonzaga. A redshirt and 4 minutes per game, respectively. Then in their 3rd seasons of college basketball they were both All-conference selections, Hachimura was an All-American and WCC POY, and Hunter was ACC DPOY.


Yep - and it's how really good mid-majors stay really good mid-majors. You have a well-implemented and well-taught system, you sign players who have upside that can be developed that fit into that system, you continually have upperclassmen who are both physically and mentally comfortable and able to play in it. Now, at a High Major like Alabama, you also need to sprinkle in some elite players to be a really solid program. Bruce Pearl has basically done exactly that at Auburn and is one of the best at meshing all of that together.

I feel pretty confident in Oats and Co. ability to identify kids and to implement his offensive system and teach. I'm still a jury is still out guy on the defensive end and overall program management at this level, but I do think that his work in year 1 with the roster (and his Buffalo work) should give him benefit of the doubt in terms of knowing his system and recruiting players who can run it.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:50 am to
New twitter account that breaks down Alabama basketball and fundamental elements of Nate Oats' play
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Bama Basketball Film Room
@BamaFilmRoom

Film clips and breakdowns of Alabama basketball.

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Joined April 2020

https://twitter.com/BamaFilmRoom
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:11 am to
It’s between us and Baylor for Bruner....We play a much funner style than them hopefully that works in our favor.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:21 am to
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I feel pretty confident in Oats and Co. ability to identify kids and to implement his offensive system and teach. I'm still a jury is still out guy on the defensive end and overall program management at this level, but I do think that his work in year 1 with the roster (and his Buffalo work) should give him benefit of the doubt in terms of knowing his system and recruiting players who can run it.


I think our defensive issues last season were mostly personnel based. After Herb and Petty our best defender was probably Galin. If Galin is the 3rd best defensive player on your team you are going to be fricking awful on that end. Rojas and Gary are supposed to be quality defenders, and there's no way JQ can be worse than Kira. Assuming Herb comes back, if we sign Bruner I see no reason why we can't be at least an average defensive team next season.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:32 am to
That's certainly my hope, too
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:51 am to
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It’s between us and Baylor for Bruner....We play a much funner style than them hopefully that works in our favor.




Harper said it's down to Bama and Maryland.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:54 am to
Corey Evans said Bama and Baylor
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:55 am to
It’s when you throw in Juwan Gary as basically a new recruit that you realize how much longer and presumably more athletic we’re going to be.

(This sort of assumes that we bring back Herb)

I’ve mentioned it before, but we must have been last in the entire country in dunks. Dunks aren’t everything, but they are good for the home crowd/momentum, they’re easy buckets, and they speak to an ability to score points in traffic/the paint (neither of which we did much of).

(Random but sort of serious question: who had more dunks - Tony Mitchell in Grant’s second year or our entire team last year? )

It’s unclear whether we are going to be good enough at shooting the basketball and passing the basketball, but we should be longer and more athletic. That helps with two massive flaws on last year’s team: defense and baskets in the paint.

Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:36 pm to
Agreed. How much better would last year's team have been with Donta Hall?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Agreed. How much better would last year's team have been with Donta Hall?



The most Alabama thing of all time is that the 2019-2020 team was specifically missing a type of player that was 90% exactly what Donta Hall was.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 1:07 pm
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