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Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:27 pm to
Maybe I’m reading too much into that but it would indicate to me that Q expects to be able to play this season if he rushed down here that fast. If you’re not going to play this year, why bust it to move down 24 hours after committing?
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:32 pm to
He talks like he expects to play from what I've read, whether he will or not is yet to be seen. Who knows with how inconsistent the NCAA is in granting them.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 10:36 pm
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:13 am to
I grew up in the Huntsville area, I know a guy currently working for the NCAA that grew up a few miles away, we know a lot of the same people.

You want me to try & find out Quinerlys status?

I kid I kid.
I hope he’s cleared though.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:50 am to
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I grew up in the Huntsville area


So you and Tide Or Die are both in Huntsville, I am too. I can referee if ya'll ever want to meet up at the sonic and settle the Galin Smith vs Alex Reese debate.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:32 am to
They need to go ahead and announce the SEC/Big12 matchups.


Im still gonna predict Oklahoma State or TCU in Coleman. Would love Iowa State or Texas Tech though.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 2:33 am
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:43 am to
@CollegeHoopnews
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Bama fans last year: “Tevin Mack is going to kill it. He’ll be our leading scorer.” Bama fans now: “We didn’t expect much from him anyway. No biggie.” #BuckleUp


Tevin Mack liked this tweet....I literally havent heard 1 fan say that.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:13 am to
I expected a lot from him and he didn't live up to expectations. Again, I blame the coaches, none of our lived up to expectations last year.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:25 am to
Who do you guys think will be our most improved player next year?

I am going to go with Kira. He should've been a SR in HS last year but he was playing 30 minutes a game in a loaded SEC. He played well considering how young he was. While reclassifying may not have worked out great for him last year it should pay off this year. He will have a year of experience under his belt and have an advantage over where he would be if he was a freshman this season. Plus this is a very PG friendly offense.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 3:27 am
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:06 am to
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Who do you guys think will be our most improved player next year?


I think Petty is going to take a huge leap under Oats.
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:45 am to
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What some of you are missing is this is basically the Spread offense in football coming to basketball. The big center is the Spread equivalent of a fullback: superfluous. Yeah, you can still play that way, but the Spread offenses are going to give you hell until everyone catches up. That may be a bit of an oversimplification but y’all understand what I’m driving at.

The only problem with that analogy is that in basketball you've gotta play both offense AND defense with the same guys.
I'm all for whatever Coach Oats wants to do, but it'll be interesting when we play teams with big, physical inside games.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 7:46 am
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:52 am to
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Who do you guys think will be our most improved player next year?



I think Petty is going to take a huge leap under Oats.


I think that's a pretty good call. Petty is one of the few guys who demonstrably got better at something last year (ball handling)

I think I'll go with Herb though. Partly because of a new coach and new system, and partly just positive regression. I think his season last year went about as poorly as it could have gone. He wasn't really always put in a great position to succeed, and I think he lost confidence pretty early.

That doesn't mean I think he'll become a good shooter. The key with him though will be free throw shooting. He's got to be working on that constantly, because he has to be a slasher and he can't be scared of getting fouled.
Posted by Crede15
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:55 am to
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The only problem with that analogy is that in basketball you've gotta play both offense AND defense with the same guys.
I'm all for whatever Coach Oats wants to do, but it'll be interesting when we play teams with big, physical inside games.


To be honest, I'm less worried about dealing with big, physical inside games (just because there aren't a ton of them) than I am just with dealing with people attacking the basket.

Galin and Reese are slow-footed and slow off the floor. If we get beat off the dribble you could see a lot of and 1's.

(The argument for Reese at the 5 is that Galin isn't a huge upgrade at protecting the rim)
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 7:56 am
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:07 am to
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(The argument for Reese at the 5 is that Galin isn't a huge upgrade at protecting the rim)


This and the fact that Smith isn’t an upgrade in rebounding or at least he hasn’t been yet.
Posted by IB4bama
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:24 am to
he will bang and play physical. He will also post up and play with his back to the basket. He has a good move to the basket, but he has to get a lot better at free throws. But we dont need 5 people passing the ball around the perimeter.
Reese normally stands in the corner and waits for the ball to be passed to him. Someone has to be a threat to get the ball in the paint and either kick it out or take it to the rim.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:43 am to
Well said

With the recent pic of Reese having lost weight I think he is planning on playing him at the 4 more anyway
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 9:54 am
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:03 am to
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he will bang and play physical


Which is good for post defense and usually rebounding. He’d be a player I wouldn’t mind having start against a team with a dominant post up game, but those arent that common.

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He will also post up and play with his back to the basket.


That’s something this offense doesn’t ask for from it’s bigs often. Smith’s perhaps best skill, is not very useful in this offense.

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Someone has to be a threat to get the ball in the paint and either kick it out or take it to the rim.


Smith hasn’t been that guy either. In this offense you’ll see more pick and roll/pops than post ups which is something that’s hard to do with Galin because he doesn’t have good hands. It’s one of the many reasons we’ll miss Hall. He had the best hands I’ve ever seen any of our bigs have. If you threw it to him where he could get a hand on it, he’d catch it. Such an underrated skill for a big to have.

Again I’m not saying y’all are ridiculous for thinking Smith should start over Reese. Just stating why I think Reese is the better option for this team. We lose some post defense, but gain more spacing in an offense that relies on it.
Posted by IB4bama
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:15 am to
Hall was/is a much better re bounder than Smith, but he was horrible when he tried any type of move to the basket. He needed a wide open slam dunk to score. So even if he caught the ball, it was going to be the same as a turnover if he tried to score. He would either lose the ball or have some God awful looking shot attempt. Smith's problem with rebounding is that he over does the block your man out thing. He is too obsessed with blocking out.
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:20 am to
The offense doesn’t call for 5 out either. Someone has to defend the other teams 5 . Who is is going to be ? Reese? Jones? Smith? I just don’t see 4 guards and a soft 4 being the base lineup . I could see a lineup with both in it at times

I guess what I am trying to say is I see Reese as a 6’9 SF
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 10:32 am
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:31 am to
I'm actually with you on most of the core of this argument (we don't really have to have a post scorer, most teams don't have dominant bigs to guard, etc.), but the one thing that's missing is a real analysis of the differences between the two on defense.

Like is Galin actually just marginally better on defense than Reese or is there a real difference?

It crossed my mind more than a few times last year that if you did a real deep dive on Reese's defense (watched ALL the film, etc.) it might be scary bad. But that could be wrong, and Galin's might not be that much better.

Rebounding is less of a mystery to me. I don't think either are great, and I don't think there's a big difference there.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:46 am to
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2020 Mountain Brook (AL) SG Colby Jones (@kovajoness) will be at Alabama today for an unofficial visit
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